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edu:
The Gemara offers 3 reasons why we don't say Hallel on Purim even though a miracle occurred.
Reason 1] The miracle took place primarily outside of the land of Israel [although there was some fighting in the land of Israel too at the time against the allies of Haman]
Reason 2] The reading of the Megilla takes the place of Hallel
Reason 3] Although there was a miracle, even after the whole episode of Purim ended, we remained servants of Achashverosh and the Persian empire.
Mishna Brura rules in accordance with Reason 3.

Now let's look at the precedent of Purim for changing Holiday Celebrations for the sake of Shabbat.
In Jerusalem, when Shushan Purim falls out on Shabbat. The Megilla reading is moved up before Shabbat
Al Hanissim is said on Shabbat. And the partying aspect of Purim is done on Sunday. That is to say some but not all of the activities regarding the direct Thanks to G-d are pushed forward not backward. While some remain on Shabbat.
In the case of Israel Ind. Day the Prayers this year are being pushed back another day.

Kahane-Was-Right BT:

--- Quote from: edu on May 09, 2011, 01:05:39 AM ---The Gemara offers 3 reasons why we don't say Hallel on Purim even though a miracle occurred.
Reason 1] The miracle took place primarily outside of the land of Israel [although there was some fighting in the land of Israel too at the time against the allies of Haman]
Reason 2] The reading of the Megilla takes the place of Hallel
Reason 3] Although there was a miracle, even after the whole episode of Purim ended, we remained servants of Achashverosh and the Persian empire.
Mishna Brura rules in accordance with Reason 3.


--- End quote ---

And reason 3 has nothing to do with what happened in 1948.

Aside from that, it makes little sense to say he (or anyone) "ruled" in such a case, as if he "decided" it definitively and/or legally.   How do you decide history?  He picked the option that he thought was the best explanation.   The gemara gave 3 possibilities.  They are all possible.  And they are not mutually exclusive either.


--- Quote ---Now let's look at the precedent of Purim for changing Holiday Celebrations for the sake of Shabbat.
In Jerusalem, when Shushan Purim falls out on Shabbat. The Megilla reading is moved up before Shabbat
Al Hanissim is said on Shabbat. And the partying aspect of Purim is done on Sunday. That is to say some but not all of the activities regarding the direct Thanks to G-d are pushed forward not backward. While some remain on Shabbat.
In the case of Israel Ind. Day the Prayers this year are being pushed back another day.

--- End quote ---

Similarly, the day for al hanissim is not changed in this case either.  

muman613:
I haven't listened to this but apparently many people ask this question...


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/3109

Audio: Should You Say Hallel on Yom Haatzmaut?
5/10/2011 10:35:00 AM
A7 Radio's "Welcome to the Tribe" with Gabriella Licsko


How do different Israelis celebrate Independence Day? Learn about the similarities & differences of different sectors of society such as haredim, secular Israelis, religious Zionists and hasidic groups and their attitudes about Yom Haatzmaut.

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