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Religious Jews Degraded at the Holiest Site in Israel
« on: July 28, 2011, 03:00:51 AM »
The fact that a religious Jew cannot even pray at the Temple mount is an atrocity which I can never accept. Every time I think of this my blood pumps faster and my muscles tense and my brow furrows in anger.

We are currently recalling the Three Week period during which we mourn the destruction of the Temple. We do this in order to never forget that we are supposed to do what we can to bring about the rebuilding of the House of G-d. But the Israeli government handed over our holiest spot on earth to our enemies, and now our enemies regularly degrade us by preventing us from even showing any sign of mourning for our loss. Jews are limited in the number who can ascend the mount, and they are prevented from bringing prayer books, and they are scrutinized to ensure that their lips are not moving lest they be arrested.

Why do we allow our religious brothers and sisters to be subjected to such indignation at the place which Hashem commanded us to make our offerings to him? Isn't the bile which rises from our stomachs bitter when we think of the injustice that goes on daily at the Mount? Reading articles like this article from A7 today makes me so angry that I cry angry tears.



http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/146164

Att'y General On Temple Mount To See Anti-Jewish Discrimination
Att'y Gen. Yehuda Weinstein visited the Temple Mount to see for himself if police officers discriminate against Jewish worshippers.They did.
by Elad Benari


Published: 28/07/11, 6:13 AM / Last Update: 28/07/11, 7:48 AM



Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein visited the Temple Mount on Tuesday in order to closely examine complaints that his office had received regarding discrimination by police officers towards Jewish visitors to the compound.

While Muslims are allowed to pray freely at the Temple Mount, Jews are allowed to enter the area only in small groups, and may not pray while there.This is the result of then-Defense Minister Moshe Dayan's decision to leave the holiest site in Judaism in the hands of the Muslim Wakf after Jerusalem's reunification in 1967.

Activists recently held a protest in which they accused police of discriminating against Jews in an attempt to appease the Muslim Wakf religious authority. Police limit the number of Jewish worshippers allowed on the Temple Mount at one time in order to prevent conflict with Muslim worshippers. They often close the Mount to Jews in response to Muslim riots – despite evidence that Muslim riots have been planned in advance for the specific purpose of forcing Jews out.

According to the Har HaBayit Shelanu (The Temple Mount is Ours) organization, Weinstein’s visit was meant to examine this issue firsthand, as well as to verify the allegations that two police officers had been untruthful to the Knesset and the courts when they claimed there was no discrimination towards Jews on the Mount.

Weinstein reportedly examined the state of the excavations on the Temple Mount where the Wakf is purposefully attempting to erase all archaeological evidence of Jewish presence in the past.

Har HaBayit Shelanu also noted that the Attorney General was exposed up close to discrimination towards Jews at the entrance to the Temple Mount: He watched the police request IDs from kippah-wearing worshippers and  warn them not to pray or prostrate themselves in front of the Temple Mount or they would be banned from entering the area. Worshippers who were not wearing a kippah were not similarly warned, possibly as they were not expected to pray.

“The visitors to the Temple Mount expect the Attorney General to launch an investigation and find out who in the police gave the discriminatory orders and who then ordered the officers to deny that these orders were given, [lying] in the courts and the Knesset, and bring those responsible to justice,” Har HaBayit Shelanu said in a statement.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Religious Jews Degraded at the Holiest Site in Israel
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 03:10:53 AM »
http://www.templeinstitute.org/archive/02-01-08a.htm

Temple Mount: From Hamas Broadcasts to Jewish Prayer Ban

reprinted from Arutz 7
24 Tevet 5768, 02 January 08 08:28

by Hillel Fendel

(IsraelNN.com) Public Security Minister Avi Dichter announced on Tuesday the government's official policy regarding Jewish prayer on the site of the Holy Temple. He made it quite simple: "Jews may pray on their holiest site - but only in their heart."

Dichter explained that government policy on the Mount is dictated by the wish to ensure that bloodshed not occur. He said that Jews moving their lips in prayer on the Mount, which the Moslems have sanctified as their own, can be seen as a Jewish provocation that could lead to bloodshed.

Knesset Members Aryeh Eldad and Uri Ariel - both of the National Union party and both residents of Kfar Adumim in the Jordan Valley - had submitted a request to pray on the holy site, and Dichter's response was the result.

Though the two had pledged not to perpetrate "group prayer" or "demonstrative prayer," both of which have been banned for Jews at the Temple Mount, Dichter said that the "outer trappings" of private prayer - namely, moving of lips - render even that forbidden. In his response to the MKs, Dichter noted that the only option for Jews who wish to pray on their most sacred site "is to exchange thoughts with his G-d in his heart."

The New Jewish Congress responded with barely-controlled fury, issuing this statement:

"Minister Dichter's comments demonstrate his, and this government's, total disconnect from the reality of the Temple Mount, from the Jewish people, and from the government's obligations towards both. This is yet another indication that the government of Ehud Olmert has ceased to be a Jewish government altogether, having not the slightest connection with the Jewish people."

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You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Religious Jews Degraded at the Holiest Site in Israel
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 03:13:35 AM »
http://www.templeinstitute.org/archive/02-01-08a.htm

Israel bars Jews from moving lips in prayer on Temple Mount
reprinted from World Net Daily
Wednesday, January 2, 2008

Even slightest 'sign' of Jewish worship prohibited at Judaism's holiest site

by Aaron Klein

Temple Mount in Jerusalem

JERUSALEM - Jews are not allowed to pray on the Temple Mount in any way whatsoever, even if they only move their lips or demonstrate other "signs" of prayer on Judaism's holiest site, ruled Avi Dichter, Israel's public security minister.

Dichter was responding to a recent decision by two Knesset members who said they would ascend the Temple Mount quietly - without informing the media or making any protest - and attempt to pray on the holy site.

The lawmakers, Uri Ariel and Aryeh Eldad from Israel's National Union Party, said Muslim prayer services take place throughout the day in the many mosques and Islamic religious schools situated on the holy site, and Jews should be able to pray as individuals on the Mount.

In a letter to the lawmakers, Dichter, Israel's highest ranking public security officer, wrote that while police cannot generally arrest a person "conversing with his maker ... however it is possible to carry out an arrest for expressions of outward and demonstrative signs [of prayer on the Temple Mount]."

Dichter's use of the phrase "conversing with his maker" mimicked the terminology used by Ariel and Eldad to describe prayer.

Dichter wrote his interpretation of Israeli law "is in line with the rationale that bans Jews from praying at the site, in light of serious concerns that this will serve as a provocation, resulting in disorder, with a near certain likelihood of subsequent bloodshed."

Israeli restrictions bar Jewish groups from praying on the Temple Mount and only allow Jews to ascend for certain hours on some days, while the Mount is open to Muslims all year.

According to strict interpretation of a 1973 Israeli law, a Jew as an individual can pray on the Temple Mount as long as the prayer is not uttered as a protest of Jewish rights to the holy site. But Israeli police forbid all Jewish prayer at the site, although there have been a few instances recently in which Jews prayed there without being arrested.

While Dichter vehemently opposed even the slightest pretence of a Jew praying on the Mount, his security ministry and the Israeli police have not acted to halt the Hamas terror group's daily broadcast of Islamic prayer services from the Mount's Al Aqsa Mosque, considered the third holiest site in Islam.

WND broke the story that Hamas last month starting broadcasting the Mount's daily Muslim prayers on the group's official radio station, Al Aqsa Radio. The services are broadcast alongside anti-Semitic commentary, including incitement against Jews.

The official Hamas radio network announced it would continue airing exclusive daily streams of Muslim morning services from the Temple Mount, and, indeed, the broadcasts have continued as scheduled, with this morning's prayer services streamed live by Hamas.

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You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Religious Jews Degraded at the Holiest Site in Israel
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 11:24:40 AM »
its sad

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Re: Religious Jews Degraded at the Holiest Site in Israel
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 12:12:41 PM »
The persecution gets worse as foretold by Jesus and the End Times Prophecy from Matt. ch. 24.

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Re: Religious Jews Degraded at the Holiest Site in Israel
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 12:20:41 PM »
The persecution gets worse as foretold by Jesus and the End Times Prophecy from Matt. ch. 24.

Well whatever that man said was already foretold before he was even born. So even if that is what he is supposed to have said the Jewish scriptures already said it...

I dont want to argue with the Christians here, but all one has to do is look at the story of the Suffering Servant {which is not about Jesus at all}. The suffering servant obviously refers to the remnants of the Children of Israel.

http://www.messiahtruth.com/isai53a.html
http://www.messiahtruth.com/isaiah53d.html
http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Isaiah_53_The_Suffering_Servant.html
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 12:29:52 PM by muman613 »
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14