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Zelhar:

--- Quote from: Yirmayahu on October 04, 2011, 03:54:35 AM ---There might be problems, I don't know. It was my paternal great-grandmother and I think the law of return requires a maternal connection. Also, when she died all information went with her so I could not prove my heritage. How strict is the Law of Return and what documents would I have to provide. In other words, what is required. I've often thought of making Aliyah but in my situation will they let me in?

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I think the law of return allows for a grandchild to a Jew (even if it's a paternal grandfather) to make aliyah.

In your case it is your paternal great grandmother so you are not Jewish according to halacha. But it means your grandfather or grandmother (son or daughter to your great grandmother) is Jewish. However, according to the law of return Jews who converted to another religion aren't eligible to make aliyah and neither do their descendants for that matter (unless they are Jews and are Jewish).

Yirmayahu:

--- Quote from: Zelhar on October 04, 2011, 07:25:23 AM ---I think the law of return allows for a grandchild to a Jew (even if it's a paternal grandfather) to make aliyah.

In your case it is your paternal great grandmother so you are not Jewish according to halacha. But it means your grandfather or grandmother (son or daughter to your great grandmother) is Jewish. However, according to the law of return Jews who converted to another religion aren't eligible to make aliyah and neither do their descendants for that matter (unless they are Jews and are Jewish).

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So that stinks, I missed it by one generation. Let's just say for discussion sake, how would someone prove their Jewishness in such instances. I know a lot of Jewish people who don't attend shul and some who have been irreligious for generations. How would they prove their heritage? I'm guessing that since I follow Torah, have been circumcised (on the 8th day by a Jewish doctor but without ceremony) wouldn't qualify me. I'm thinking that I'd probably have to go through an official conversion (although I perform everything anyhow) and that would make me officially Kosher. Am I right by that assertion? Thanks for helping me with this; I really appreciate your input. Berechot...David

Zelhar:

--- Quote from: Yirmayahu on October 06, 2011, 12:09:28 AM ---So that stinks, I missed it by one generation. Let's just say for discussion sake, how would someone prove their Jewishness in such instances. I know a lot of Jewish people who don't attend shul and some who have been irreligious for generations. How would they prove their heritage? I'm guessing that since I follow Torah, have been circumcised (on the 8th day by a Jewish doctor but without ceremony) wouldn't qualify me. I'm thinking that I'd probably have to go through an official conversion (although I perform everything anyhow) and that would make me officially Kosher. Am I right by that assertion? Thanks for helping me with this; I really appreciate your input. Berechot...David

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I think one has to show registers from the Jewish community attesting for hi or his parent or grand parent's Jewishness. For that matter I think that if the person himself is a member of a Jewish orthodox community a letter from his rabbi would suffice. Otherwise he can bring the Ktuba of his parents as evidence, or brith certificate etc.

You should understand that in order to make aliyah you just have to prove Jewish roots to a civilian agency (the Jewish agency). But once in Israel if you want the state rabbinate to recognize you as a Jew the criterion is obviously more strict as dictated by halacha.

Yirmayahu:

--- Quote from: Zelhar on October 06, 2011, 04:10:39 AM ---I think one has to show registers from the Jewish community attesting for hi or his parent or grand parent's Jewishness. For that matter I think that if the person himself is a member of a Jewish orthodox community a letter from his rabbi would suffice. Otherwise he can bring the Ktuba of his parents as evidence, or brith certificate etc.

You should understand that in order to make aliyah you just have to prove Jewish roots to a civilian agency (the Jewish agency). But once in Israel if you want the state rabbinate to recognize you as a Jew the criterion is obviously more strict as dictated by halacha.

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Thanks, you've been very helpful and have answered a lot for me. I appreciate all of the help.

Zelhar:
You're welcome.

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