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JDL, a terrorist organization?
« on: June 17, 2007, 01:58:54 PM »
http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=14291&

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It's great that they are supporting SA and Rhodesia, but when one of the moderators is jdl4ever (referring to the multiple-convicted terrorist organisation in the US that used bombs, arsons, death threats, and even murders to get their way), I have to wonder whether they are really support we want.

Since I am not very knowledgeable about the JDL, can someone explain to him otherwise?


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Re: JDL, a terrorist organization?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2007, 02:26:36 PM »
http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=14291&

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It's great that they are supporting SA and Rhodesia, but when one of the moderators is jdl4ever (referring to the multiple-convicted terrorist organisation in the US that used bombs, arsons, death threats, and even murders to get their way), I have to wonder whether they are really support we want.

Since I am not very knowledgeable about the JDL, can someone explain to him otherwise?

Mind you what kind of webpage it is. Africanus Shwartazus. Meantime in that very dark continent they are still eating people alive.
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Re: JDL, a terrorist organization?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 02:36:00 PM »
This was written in New York Times 01/05/01 (http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10815F9345F0C768CDDA80894D9404482&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fK%2fKahane%2c%20Meir)

F.B.I. Raids Brooklyn Office of Kahane Followers
 
January 5, 2001, Friday
By DEAN E. MURPHY (NYT); Metropolitan Desk

DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - New York City police and FBI agents raid Brooklyn community center run by followers of Rabbi Meir David Kahane, Israeli politician assassinated in 1990, whose movements are designated as foreign terrorist groups by State Department; center served as New York headquarters of Kahane movement, which had been led by Binyamin Kahane, rabbi's son, until he was killed in West Bank; confiscated items were computers, filing cabinets, protest signs, written materials and videotapes of speeches by Rabbi Kahane; there were no arrests; court documents supporting search warrant are sealed

Correction: January 8, 2001, Monday Because of an editing error, an article on Friday about a raid on a Brooklyn community center run by followers of Rabbi Meir Kahane misstated the scope of a State Department designation involving the Kahane movement. Two Kahane political parties banned in Israel have been designated as foreign terrorist organizations in the United States, but the center in Brooklyn and the broader Kahane movement have not been.
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Re: JDL, a terrorist organization?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 02:37:14 PM »
JTF is not the JDL.  JDL never targeted civilians.  Their bombs were directed towards Soviet institutions in the U.S. and were designed to raise the awareness of the world to the plight of Soviet Jewry.  It was the Soviet Union that was terrorizing and destroying Jews and the JDL was bombing to put pressure on the Soviets.  The death threats were just that, threats.  It was part of a policy to ensure that Jews would not be killed, and it worked!  The Soviets were the ones who wanted to kill Jews, and JDL was just reacting in response.  Also, not all of the acts of JDL members can be considered to be the official policies of JDL.

Also, JDL forever doesn't necessarily mean that he supports terrorism.  The JDL was an organization that did much more than just terrorist acts.  JDL4ever could be referring to the tenets of the JDL living forever, like Jewish self-defense, returning to Jewish roots and Ahavat Yisrael, serving and helping fellow Jews and putting Jewish interests above others.  There are many people who support what JDL basically stands for but condemns terrorism.  Also, JDL4ever is just one person.  Isn't it faulty to not want the support of a group, based on just ONE of its members.  I'm sure there is at least one person on the africancrisis website who is an anti-Semite, but if that's not what the groups stands for, I wouldn't see a reason for JTF to disassociate itself with africancrisis.  The bottom line is, JTF does not support terrorism OF ANY KIND. 

I'm sure there are people on the africancrisis website who supported groups or political organizations that have committed some sort of terrorist or unjust acts against blacks, including the former government of South Africa.
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Re: JDL, a terrorist organization?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2007, 02:52:59 PM »
I haven't heard of any instance of Chaim's calling for violent acts or activities.
Morever, I constantly hear him talking about elections and convincing in a dialogue.
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