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edu:
The Chazon Ish established in his, Hilchot Avodat Cochavim, siman 62, comment 19:
    "That is to say that the Gentiles of their times believed in a Creator, however, they attributed a material nature and change to him, up to the point where they considered created matter as a god and therefore at the time when they recount the name of heaven [a euphemism for G-d] they associate [or make a partnership between] the Creator of heaven with something else so therefore this creates a leniency in the law against causing the name of an idol to be uttered, for indeed, the name which they recount is directed towards the Creator of Heaven; however there is an aspect of the association [or partnership] of the name of heaven with something else which is more severe than just recounting the name of idols.
    And it is clarified, that a doubt never entered into the minds of our rabbis that it and those who serve it should have the status of idol worship, although they believe in a Creator of Heaven, for all that worship something that was created and attribute to it, an independent will [or free choice] and dominion, this is the main aspect of idolatry".

maelgwyn:
You are refering to the Apostate Church! Many Gentile sects pray to G-D thru his one and only son J/C, and deny the Trinity as herasy! >:(

edu:
Those groups that deny a trinity are moving in the right direction.
I would like in light of maelgwyn's words to bring up  another point at this time.
It says in the Bible:
You are sons to G-d your L-rd
Dvarim/Deuteronomy 14:1
We Jews understand that this is a symbolic statement and not literal. In our view G-d doesn't even have a body.
There is much more to be said on this subject but I think I will have more of an impact
if I don't bring up too much information about the Jewish viewpoint in one shot.

Tag-MehirTzedek:

--- Quote from: edu on November 28, 2011, 04:30:51 AM ---Those groups that deny a trinity are moving in the right direction.
I would like in light of maelgwyn's words to bring up  another point at this time.
It says in the Bible:
You are sons to G-d your L-rd
Dvarim/Deuteronomy 14:1
We Jews understand that this is a symbolic statement and not literal. In our view G-d doesn't even have a body.
There is much more to be said on this subject but I think I will have more of an impact
if I don't bring up too much information about the Jewish viewpoint in one shot.


--- End quote ---

 In fact Jesus himself said that as well. He was saying that he is the son of G-D. But when he was asked he said I'm like you (just as you are the children of G-D). Meaning just as the Jews are referred to as the children of G-D soo is he the son of G-D (not more and not less).
 Some (in my view) pagens started making him be a literal "son of G-D", but the truth is their is no such thing. Even by his own testimony as written in their books.

maelgwyn:
J/C was born in the Autumn not December, early church incorporated pagen festivals to g et members-etc The cross didnt appear till AD 400 torture stake the Rnsomans put their victims to death . Emperor Constantine the apostate , not great has a lot to answer for !   >:(

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