We have a problem folks : Egypts Leaders will not recognize Israel

[muman613]

This is not surprising but let us hear what the 'pundits' who believed that the arab spring was the 'spread of democracy'. We know that this so-called arab spring was nothing more than the spread of Islamic sharia through the expansion of the 'muslim brotherhood'. So the media in the last few months has portrayed the opinions of this muslim brotherhood as being reasonable and some articles stated that the brotherhood would not nullify the peace treaty with Israel {The Camp David Accords}.


But todays news makes those previous announcements seem humorous. Today the news reads that the muslim brotherhood does not recognize Israel. So how do the previous stories about keeping a peace treaty with Israel make sense if they don't recognize Israel?

So the bottom line is that the new Egyptian political leadership will not recognize Israels existence as the Jewish state. Thus again I believe that Israel has every right to re-occupy the Sinai desert which was so nicely given back as a result of the Camp David accords. If Egypt wants to nullify the peace agreement then let us all go back to square one...


http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/01/02/3090987/egypts-muslim-brotherhood-says-will-not-recognize-israel

Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood says it will not recognize Israel
January 2, 2012

JERUSALEM (JTA) -- The Muslim Brotherhood, which is leading in the national elections in Egypt, said it will not recognize Israel.

The party's deputy head, Rashad Bayoumi, stold the Al-Hayat Arabic newspaper that the Muslim Brotherhood also would work to cancel the 1979 peace treaty between Israel and Egypt.

"No Muslim Brotherhood members will engage in any contact or normalization with Israel," he reportedly said in the interview with the London-based paper published Sunday.

“The Brotherhood respects international conventions, but we will take legal action against the peace treaty with the Zionist entity,” Al Hayat reported, according to Reuters.

Last week, the Salafi Al-Nour party, which won up to 30 percent of the vote in the first two rounds of parliamentary elections in Egypt, reportedly said in a statement that the party will "stand firmly against normalization between the two countries in all forms, and are against ties with any entity that wants to harm the Egyptian identity."

The statement came after a spokesman for the party said in an interview with Israel's Army Radio that the party would respect all treaties signed by Egypt, including the 1979 pact with Israel, though party leaders later clarified that the party is looking into the matter.
 

[Dr. Dan]

I'm fine with that because Egypt and other Nazi nations don't have a right to exist.

[Daniel Michael ben Avraham]

OH NO!  We are not being recognized by Nazis!  What is the world coming to?  Pttttttttttt!  I hope all the Mitzri end up in the self created hell they belong in.

[heyuguys]

it is easy to laugh this off, but the consequences of a war with egypt could lead to many israelis being killed even if israel would obviously destroy egypt. with the incompetence of the israeli military these days you can bet many israeli jews unfortunately would die while israel tries to prevent killing egyptian 'civilians'.

i think the muslim brotherhood should be called the obama-backed muslim brotherhood, because he fully supports their rule in egypt.

[Secularbeliever]

Egypt has a huge advanced arsenal.  If they go back to killing Jews it is a very serious matter.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

They didn't recognize Israel to begin with.

[muman613]

They didn't recognize Israel to begin with.

For 30 years there has been relative peace between Egypt and Israel. It was a cold peace but it was peace non-the-less. The leader of Egypt, Mubarak, maintained the peace agreement since 1978 (See Camp David Peace accord)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_Peace_Accord

The Camp David Accords were signed by Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin on September 17, 1978, following thirteen days of secret negotiations at Camp David.[1] The two framework agreements were signed at the White House, and were witnessed by United States President Jimmy Carter. The second of these frameworks, A Framework for the Conclusion of a Peace Treaty between Egypt and Israel, led directly to the 1979 Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty, and resulted in Sadat and Begin sharing the 1978 Nobel Peace Prize. Little progress was achieved on the first framework however, A Framework for Peace in the Middle East, which dealt with the Palestinian territories.

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The Sadat peace initiative

President Anwar El Sadat came to feel that the Geneva track peace process was more show than substance, and was not progressing, partly due to disagreements with his Arab (mainly Syria, Libya, and Iraq) and his communist allies. He also lacked confidence in the Western powers to pressure Israel after a meeting with the Western leaders. His frustration boiled over, and after clandestine preparatory meetings between Egyptian and Israeli officials, unknown even to the NATO countries, in November 1977 Anwar El Sadat became the first Arab leader to visit Israel, thereby implicitly recognizing Israel.

Whether the majority of Egyptian people recognized Israel is a non-issue. That Mubarak upheld the Egyptian part of the peace accord was the important thing. Now that they are preparing to 'reasses' the Camp David plan is not good news as it will open another front in the war against the arab states...

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I wouldn't call ongoing smuggling of both terrorists and arms through the Gaza border, calls in their own state media for the annihilation of all Jews, and the funding of suicide bombers a "cold peace". As I see it an honest Egypt only can help Israel (if she cares).

[IsraelForever]

I think that Egypt being taken over by these Jew-hating fanatics is a problem... or at least a potential problem.  Who wants another war?  Not me!  We were better off with Mubarak.  But this is even more reason to destroy Iran's nuclear sites immediately.  I hate to say this, but I have to be true to my feelings:  I do believe that, G-d forbid, there will be another Holocaust in Israel if these Arab countries get nuclear bombs.  People foolishly didn't take Hitler seriously.  So I take Ahmadinejahd VERY seriously.  If these Sharia vermin get nuclear bombs, I believe our second Holocaust will be too distinct a possibility for me. 

On another note, I was thrilled to read today that Santorum said that if he becomes President he will definitely bomb Iran's nuclear sites.  That's very promising.

[muman613]

This article does a good job of explaining the situation:



http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/04/the-new-egypt-we-will-never-recognize-israel/

The New Egypt: We Will Never Recognize Israel
Posted By Joseph Klein On January 4, 2012 @ 12:33 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | No Comments



The Islamists, led by the Muslim Brotherhood, are poised to take control of the newly elected Egyptian parliament. As they consolidate their power internally, the Muslim Brotherhood-led Islamists will likely turn Egypt into a hotbed of jihadism against anything non-Muslim, taking direct aim at the Jewish state of Israel.

Last winter, as the Egyptian people were rising up against President Hosni Mubarak, Muhammad Ghannem, a leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, told the Arabic-language Iranian news network Al-Alam:

The people should be prepared for war against Israel. The Egyptian people are prepared for anything to get rid of this regime.

Muslim Brotherhood deputy leader Dr Rashad Bayoumi started off 2012 with a belligerent interview published in the Arabic daily al-Hayat, in which he insisted that his organization will not recognize Israel “under any circumstance.” Bayoumi added that “we do not recognize Israel at all. [Israel is] an occupying criminal enemy.”

Bayoumi’s declaration came less than a week after the Muslim Brotherhood, which gave birth to Hamas, hosted Hamas’s Gaza leader Ismail Haniyeh with a warm welcome at the Muslim Brotherhood’s Cairo area headquarters. This was Haniyeh’s first trip outside of Gaza since Hamas took over Gaza by force in 2007. He milked every ounce of anti-Israel propaganda that he could from the visit. As quoted by Egypt’s state news agency MENA, Haniyeh declared:

Our presence with the Brotherhood threatens the Israeli entity.

The Muslim Brotherhood’s Supreme Guide Mohammed Badei, who greeted Haniyeh, engaged in a mutual admiration session with Haniyeh during their meeting. Badei went so far as to extol the Muslim Brotherhood offspring Hamas for now serving as its parent’s role model.

During a joint press conference, as reported in the Jerusalem Post, the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas leaders had this chummy exchange:

Badei: “You are welcome to our country; you are welcome to our headquarters. The general center of Muslim Brotherhood is paying attention all the time to the Palestinian issue as it pays attention to the issues of liberation all over the world.”

Haniyeh: “The Islamic resistance movement of Hamas, by definition is, a jihadist movement by the Muslim Brotherhood, Palestinian on the surface, Islamic at its core and its goal is liberation.”

The Muslim Brotherhood and its offshoot Hamas are joined at the hip. Indeed, Hamas’s charter begins with a homage to Hamas’s roots in the “Muslim Brotherhood Movement,” which the charter describes as a “world organization, the largest Islamic Movement in the modern era.”

Haniyeh, Hamas’s leader in Gaza, and Badei, the Muslim Brotherhood’s leader in Egypt, reflect the Hamas-Muslim Brotherhood partnership’s shared goal to destroy the Jewish state.


 
Just two weeks prior to the confab between Badei and Haniyeh in Cairo, Haniyeh was in Gaza marking the 24th anniversary of the founding of Hamas. The Hamas leader was quoted by Palestinian Media Watch as saying that Hamas’s “strategic” goal remains the complete elimination of the Jewish state of Israel:

We say today, explicitly, so it cannot be explained otherwise, that the armed resistance and the armed struggle are the path and the strategic choice for liberating the Palestinian land, from the [Mediterranean] sea to the [Jordan] river, and for the expulsion of the invaders and usurpers [Israel]… We won’t relinquish one inch of the land of Palestine. The Hamas movement will lead Intifada after Intifada until we liberate Palestine – all of Palestine, Allah willing. Allah Akbar and praise Allah… These principles are absolute and cannot be disputed: Palestine – all of Palestine – is from the sea to the river. We won’t relinquish one inch of the land of Palestine. The involvement of Hamas at any stage with the interim objective of liberation of [only] Gaza, the West Bank, or Jerusalem, does not replace its strategic view concerning Palestine and the land of Palestine.

There are some people who think that the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas are solely Israel’s problem, not ours. Others, including senior members of the Obama administration, believe that the Muslim Brotherhood is now a reformed “moderate” organization that the United States government should recognize and do business with. They are sadly mistaken.

Israel and the United States face a common global enemy – Islamist jihadism – which both the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas embody. “Democracy,” in the eyes of both organizations, is only a tactical means to securing power, which is to be exercised in the service of sharia law, jihad and Islamic supremacy.

While Israel experienced the tragic human toll of Islamic jihadism first, 9/11 brought it directly to our shores. David Horowitz was perfectly correct when he said that “Israel is the canary in the mine. What happens to Israel will eventually happen to America itself.”

Both Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood have eulogized the jihadist terrorist in chief and architect of 9/11, Osama bin Laden. Hamas’s leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, condemned the United States for killing bin Laden, whom he praised as “a Muslim and Arabic warrior.” The Muslim Brotherhood described bin Laden as a “Sheikh,” and also condemned his assassination.

If the Obama administration thinks that helping to empower a Muslim Brotherhood-led Sunni Islamist crescent is an effective way to counter the so-called Iranian-led Shia crescent across the Middle East region, it should think again. Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood have put traditional Sunni-Shia religious differences aside and forged close ties with the Iranian regime.

The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood openly sided with Ayatollah Khomeini’s establishment of an Islamic theocracy in Iran. The Iranian regime is returning the favor as the chief sponsor of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestinian offshoot, Hamas. And Iran’s government is also the model of “a good government” for Egypt according to Kamal al-Halbavi, a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Kamal al-Halbavi expressed gratitude to the Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei for his support of the Egyptian revolution and said he hoped that Egypt would have a “good government, like the Iranian government, and a good president like Mr. Ahmadinejad, who is very brave.”

The Muslim Brotherhood’s spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi has defended Iran’s pursuit of nuclear technology and called for unity among Islamic nations in support of Iran and against the United States:

Iran is a Muslim country which all Muslims should defend while the US is an enemy of Islam that has already declared war on Islam under the disguise of war on terrorism and provides Israel with unlimited support.

In sum, the Obama administration’s engagement with the Muslim Brotherhood is not only potentially lethal to Israel. It is potentially lethal to the national security of the United States itself.