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Quote from Zelhar

--- Quote ---These stories prove nothing about what's "out there". They tell about the experience and senses of a person who undergoes massive trauma injury and clinical death.
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One problem with this answer is that the clinically dead sometimes come back with information that they did not have access to before the massive trauma injury and clinical death.

Ephraim Ben Noach:
Wound you like to hear a short story? Of one reason I believe in the after life.

Zelhar:

--- Quote ---One problem with this answer is that the clinically dead sometimes come back with information that they did not have access to before the massive trauma injury and clinical death.
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I heard such claims and if they are true I don't know how to explain them. It wouldn't be enough to convince me though.


--- Quote ---Wound you like to hear a short story? Of one reason I believe in the after life.
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sure.

Ephraim Ben Noach:
I wasn't going to give him some crazy pagan ghost story! I was going to tell him a story that everything is ok when we die!

edu:
quote from dan ben noah

--- Quote ---The fact that miracles have happened, even false miracles, suggests that there is more to reality than meets the eye.  But ultimately miracles are not what's going to make Jews observe Torah.  The Tanach's history shows that even after G-d had performed many miracles at the hands of Moses for all Israel to see, they still sank into the lowest forms of idolatry.  So ultimately it's a decision of whether to do the right thing or not, because there will always be some excuse not to believe.
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My response is that there are at least 2 types of people who are not religious.
The first type honestly has, what he believes to be logical reasons not to believe and when he is presented with evidence against his initial conclusions, such as, miracles he changes his opinions.
The second type really does not want to believe no matter what the evidence, suggests. Those types will twist the evidence in any direction they can in order to avoid being religious, even if shown a miracle.

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