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Israel Chai:

--- Quote from: muman613 on May 16, 2012, 12:27:49 AM ---I would not even compare this guy to Rabbi Kahane. Rabbi Kahane would never say these things. I have watched virtually every video available of Rabbi Kahanes speeches and read several of his works and he has never made such accusations and slanders against the Chassidic. I also believe I have heard that Rabbi Kahane believed in the Zohar.


No Tag, Slander against Jews is forbidden. And claiming that those sects of Judaism which accept Kabbalah are not zionistic is slander.

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Yeah I read the Zohar. I may believe in conservative elitism on the side, but I'm not not diametrically opposed to Torah on any level.

Tag-MehirTzedek:
Muman your emotions are controlling your mind.
 1- Rav Kahane said he is not a man of Kabbalah. He simply did not deal with this issue and it would have been something in his way and off topic from what he was trying to accomplish. He simply ignored it and only on rare occasion quoted from the Zohar.
 2- Where is the slander?
 3- "more Chassids who are pro Israel than I find non-Chassidic."
 I don't believe their was mention of Chassidim at all until you wrote this here.
 
 The criticism and point (of which you quoted) was that the ideas that were and are present amoung the Torah world, particullarly amoung the Kabbalistically inclined is that the redemption will come and will have things like Temple falling from the sky (by some literally believed) Jews would be magically brought back to Israel etc. What he pointed out (in that quote you brought) is that we need to loko at the world in REAL terms. Having a real army and people living and working through the real world to bring upon the era of redemption.
 Also this has been partly why many Jews left the religion or what they percieved to be the religion. It is because what was presented as Judaism was a mere fantasy and not like the origional Jewish idea. Soo many of these Jews who were part of the Zionist movement disassociated with Judaism partly because of what they have seen in the religious world at that time. 

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