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The Dead Leader of The Na, Nach, Nachman sect of Breslov is not Mashiach!

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edu:
It is not just some elements of Chabad that still believe their leader is Mashiach even though he is dead. In my neighborhood, some individual or individuals have been putting up posters and stickers claiming the dead leader of The Na, Nach, Nachman sect of Breslov is Mashiach!
I am very far from being a member of either movements. In fact I, like the Chatam Sofer, think that most of the Zohar is not from Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai which knocks down the foundations of the various  chassidic movements. Nevertheless, I do expect and demand that individuals who are part of the more respectable branches of Chabad and Breslov to come out and denounce, those individuals who are turning dead Chassidic leaders into the Mashiach.
Being quiet is not enough in my opinion to separate yourselves from these "messianists".

Tag-MehirTzedek:
Actually for a time their was strong Messianism of Breslovers. Then it died down. This is the first time I'm hearing of a Breslover who believes that their Rebbe (Nachman) was the Messiah.

 Oooh wait I just re read your post, are you saying that they now believe the old guy who made the Na Nach Nachman slogan is believed to be the Moshiah now?

edu:
To answer  Tag-MehirTzedek

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--- Quote ---ooh wait I just re read your post, are you saying that they now believe the old guy who made the Na Nach Nachman slogan is believed to be the Moshiah now?
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Yes That's right. The Old guy that made the Na Nach Nachman slogan is their Mashiach.

Zelhar:

--- Quote from: edu on May 22, 2012, 01:47:11 PM ---To answer  Tag-MehirTzedek

OYes That's right. The Old guy that made the Na Nach Nachman slogan is their Mashiach.

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Do you mean they think rabbi Yisroel Ber Odesser is the messiah ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yisroel_Ber_Odesser

Tag-MehirTzedek:
I blieve he went insane in his old age. Its truly sad that he made a statement and now apparently some are believing him to be the Messiah.

 "A few days before his death at the age of 106, Rabbi Odesser recorded these words on tape:[1]
All the world, and the whole government, do not know who I am! Behold, I inform them who I am! I am Na Nach Nachma Nachman Meuman!
 Who is the Rebbe of the whole world? Rebbe Na Nach Nachma Nachman Meuman!
 I am Na Nach Nachma Nachman Meuman! "

 This probably has to do with the whole "Gilgul" craze as well. I know many Breslover teachings (especially Likutei Moharan) some are great others problematic including reincarnation and the Rebbe being a Behinat of someone else (usually Moshe-Moshiah) perhaps this also is similar to Chabad messianism as well. Its a shame, we need to get back to down to earth true Torah Judaism if we are wanting to see real progress and have Jewish society be as it supposed to be. 

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