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Temple Mount Awareness 2012
Israel Chai:
--- Quote from: muman613 on May 24, 2012, 06:07:52 PM ---The issue discussed in these videos is not that Jews should be able to daven at the Kotel [Western Wall] but that we should be able to ascend the Mount Har HaBayit and daven there. The Jewish people have no problem praying at the wall. We are not permitted to pray on the Mount...
But basically I understand what you are trying to say. I wish it was this easy...
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No, muman, you don't really. If they don't loose their blasphemous temple, Jews loose the wall, key word "trying".
muman613:
--- Quote from: LocustKillingZealot on May 24, 2012, 10:17:02 PM ---No, muman, you don't really. If they don't loose their blasphemous temple, Jews loose the wall, key word "trying".
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Yes, it is difficult to understand what you are saying. LKZ, is English your primary language? So many things you write seem cryptic and difficult to understand... I have no idea what you are saying here.
What do you mean 'blashphemous temple'? The Holy Temple is not blasphemous. It is the goal of the entire Prophetic writings of Tanakh, the building of the Third Temple..
Israel Chai:
--- Quote from: muman613 on May 24, 2012, 10:23:08 PM ---Yes, it is difficult to understand what you are saying. LKZ, is English your primary language? So many things you write seem cryptic and difficult to understand... I have no idea what you are saying here.
What do you mean 'blashphemous temple'? The Holy Temple is not blasphemous.
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I have this thing where I don't think before I communicate... it always got me really good marks in college and when you write stories you don't know the ending so its exciting... their temple, not ours. So when I say their... you still think I'm a lying and impersonating goy?
Israel Chai:
I also like poetry and comedy.
muman613:
--- Quote from: LocustKillingZealot on May 24, 2012, 10:26:31 PM ---I have this thing where I don't think before I communicate... it always got me really good marks in college and when you write stories you don't know the ending so its exciting... their temple, not ours. So when I say their... you still think I'm a lying and impersonating goy?
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OK I think I understand. But they (Muslims) don't call it a Temple and they deny that the Temple ever existed. They built a shrine called Al-Aqsa on the spot where the Temple stood... One day that shrine will be sent to the far reaches of outer space and the Temple will be rebuilt on its chosen place, the place Hashem chose..
Regarding speaking or writing things which are ambiguous or difficult to understand I refer to Pirkie Avot Chapter Two, Pasuk 4
--- Quote ---4. He would also say: Make that His will should be your will, so that He should make your will to be as His will. Nullify your will before His will, so that He should nullify the will of others before your will.
Hillel would say: Do not separate yourself from the community. Do not believe in yourself until the day you die. Do not judge your fellow until you have stood in his place. Do not say something that is not readily understood in the belief that it will ultimately be understood [or: Do not say something that ought not to be heard even in the strictest confidence, for ultimately it will be heard]. And do not say "When I free myself of my concerns, I will study,'' for perhaps you will never free yourself.
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