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Tag-MehirTzedek:
Shalom to all.
  Would like to inform you a unique Halacha from Rav Bar-Hayim Shlitta.

 The Summer (Northern Hemisphere) Solstice will occur this year on June 20 at 11:09 pm.
The following day, Yom 5, at any time during the day, one recites the B'rakha "Barukh.....'Ose Breshith". On this day the sun is at its highest point in the sky and its rays most direct and powerful.

Tag-MehirTzedek:
More on this here
 http://machonshilo.org/en/eng/list-ask-the-rav/46-tphilla-and-brakhoth/418-reciting-a-brakha-on-the-sun-and-other-heavenly-bodies-
 
 And here (connected with links)
 http://machonshilo.org/en/eng/list-ask-the-rav/46-tphilla-and-brakhoth/599-a-brakha-on-the-venus-transit

edu:
Because one is not supposed to make a blessing which is not required, the poskim generally frown upon innovating new blessings that were not practiced by previous generations, especially when the proposal to say the blessing is based on conjecture and not clear proof.
Rambam in Moreh Nevuchim part 3 chapter 14 admits that not everything that the Sages knew about astronomy was correct and unfortunately Rambam's astronomy also was wrong because he relied on the astronomy of the ancient Greeks.
See also Pesachim 94b, where Rebbe admits it is possible, that the non Jewish scholars had on some issues of astronomy, a better understanding than the astronomy used by the Jews.
See also Rabbi Avraham the son of Rambam's introduction to the Agadot, brought at the beginning of Ein Yaakov, where to summarize his views, he understood, that if the non Jews bring weak scientific proof for their views (on scientific issues) we just say it appears that they are correct. But we will only say that the halacha (Jewish Law) follows their view if they bring very strong scientific proof.
In light of this, it is not so simple to bring proofs from the scientific reality that we see today, to prove what was in the mind of the Sages, when they instituted the recital of blessings over certain astronomical events.

Kahane-Was-Right BT:

--- Quote from: edu on June 19, 2012, 02:11:17 AM ---Because one is not supposed to make a blessing which is not required, the poskim generally frown upon innovating new blessings that were not practiced by previous generations, especially when the proposal to say the blessing is based on conjecture and not clear proof.
Rambam in Moreh Nevuchim part 3 chapter 14 admits that not everything that the Sages knew about astronomy was correct and unfortunately Rambam's astronomy also was wrong because he relied on the astronomy of the ancient Greeks.
See also Pesachim 94b, where Rebbe admits it is possible, that the non Jewish scholars had on some issues of astronomy, a better understanding than the astronomy used by the Jews.
See also Rabbi Avraham the son of Rambam's introduction to the Agadot, brought at the beginning of Ein Yaakov, where to summarize his views, he understood, that if the non Jews bring weak scientific proof for their views (on scientific issues) we just say it appears that they are correct. But we will only say that the halacha (Jewish Law) follows their view if they bring very strong scientific proof.
In light of this, it is not so simple to bring proofs from the scientific reality that we see today, to prove what was in the mind of the Sages, when they instituted the recital of blessings over certain astronomical events.

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How is this even a response?

Are you saying there is some astronomy mistake being made here?   If so, what is it?

Kahane-Was-Right BT:

--- Quote from: edu on June 19, 2012, 02:11:17 AM ---Because one is not supposed to make a blessing which is not required, the poskim generally frown upon innovating new blessings that were not practiced by previous generations,

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This is awfully confusing.  Innovating new blessings?    This is a blessing given to us by chazal in oral Torah.  Who is innovating a new blessing?
Not practiced by previous generations?  So if people stopped saying it at some point, that means it was never said before in any generations?  The practice no longer exists?

As for it being "not required," it would seem to me that seeing a wondrous natural phenomenon would kick in the requirement. 

I'm unclear on what you're saying.

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