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I Will Be Leaving JTF Permanently

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Nic Brookes:
He will probably not reconsider. If there is going to be discriminations against Christians, I will also leave.

cosmokramer:
If anybody is discriminating against christians, They shoule be banned.

mord:

--- Quote from: cosmokramer on June 28, 2007, 04:01:35 PM ---If anybody is discriminating against christians, They shoule be banned.

--- End quote ---
Agreed

Until Shiloh Comes:
Friends/Christians, good day to you all.

Rest assured Chaim will personally address this issue and your concerns on the next ASK JTF.   

The Jewish Task Force excludes no one, and works with everyone, and we love and respect our Christian brothers/sisters despite the theological differences.  The long history of Chaim's work in the JDL, JTF, and the long record of his public statements about right-wing Bible believing Christians only underscores this point.

Allen-T's decision was made over a discussion in the hidden Admins/Mods section of the board.  Be certain that I as a non-Jew, and with a family of devout Christians, would never allow the disrespect or slander of our Christian brethren without confronting it.   Allen-T's claims, in my opinion, are based on comments which were taken completely out of context, and simply do not represent the true nature of the exchange.   He has made an interpretation that virtually none of the other mods/admins seem to agree with, and our mods/admins are both Jewish and Gentile.

Sit tight, and the truth will come to light.   I will be temporarily locking this thread until Chaim Ben Pesach is notified of these events.

With kindest regards, and awaiting Shiloh,
Christopher

jsullivan:
Neither Chaim nor myself can deal with this issue tonight because we have to meet with some important people.

However, no one at any time threatened to harm any JTF member. That simply is not true.

Allen-T wrote on the moderators' site that the number one priority in his life is to preach Christianity to everyone, including Jews. He made it clear that he does not do this while he is on the JTF forum (which is true). But when he is not on the JTF forum, he does missionize to anyone who will listen, including Jews.

jdl4ever then explained that according to Torah Jewish law, someone who convinces a Jew to leave the Jewish faith is in effect murdering that Jew spiritually. jdl4ever added that he could not work with an avowed missionary. And finally, jdl4ever said that Torah Jewish law requires Jews to fight missionary activity even through the use of violence if necessary.

jdl4ever NEVER threatened Allen-T or anyone else, and even clarified that his reiteration of Jewish law was NOT intended as a threat.

But Allen-T said that he could not work with people who felt this way about Christian missionaries.

Chaim also wrote a long letter to Allen-T explaining to him why there should not be missionary activity among Jews and we will reprint that letter here, G-d willing.

JTF DOES want to work with Christians and all decent people, but JTF will NOT work with avowed missionaries. If this means that we have to lose some of our supporters, then it is unfortunate but this is a matter of principle for JTF.

Allen-T has been a great asset to our cause and his resignation is very unfortunate.

On a personal note, although I have never met Allen-T, I think very highly of him and consider him to be a good friend. He will be sorely missed.

If in the future, Allen-T decides that Chaim is right in claiming that missionary activity among Jews violates Biblical law, then Allen-T will always be welcome to return to our ranks.

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