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ONE MILLION Haredim planning to march against a Torah command!
Tag-MehirTzedek:
--- Quote from: Yerusha on July 11, 2012, 12:49:24 PM ---Together with the Lubavitcher Rebbe's not-one-inch-stance, the 1956 Kfar Habad massacre http://www.chabad.info/index.php?url=article_en&id=18383
is the reason why a higher % of Chabadniks serve in Zahal than any other Haredi group
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One does not lead to the other. Had the previous Chabad Rebbe not made his pro Eretz Yisrael statements and Haskaffa I very much doubt Chabadniks would volunteer the way that many of them do.
Tag-MehirTzedek:
Here a simple example of a homicide arab nazi bomber murdering some Haredim. We didn't see them joining I.D.F. because of it.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,46978,00.html
edu:
Tag-MehirTzedek
I was just about to paste some evidence that terror attacks on Charedis don't necessarily add up to enlistment in the IDF, but I saw you were quicker in your response.
In any case, the link I wanted to supply describes the bus bombing, which killed many charedi jews on a return trip from the Kotel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmuel_HaNavi_bus_bombing
I remember at least some charedis concluded from the bus bombing, that it was a punishment because, there wasn't a separate men and women section for passengers on the bus. Or at least they did not merit Divine Intervention to save them because of this issue.
Other "spiritual" reasons are offered by Charedi ideologues such as Rabbi Amnon Yitzchak, to explain Arab terror. He never says joining the IDF is the solution.
Yerusha, you also made the assumption in your post that there is some link between joining the IDF and increased security. But as long as you have Israeli Ministers of Defense, who are elected to high party positions based on the Arab vote and as long as you have Israeli leadership that believes in the ideology of the "purity of arms" as well as, "land for peace", don't expect a big improvement in security even if the I.D.F. doubles its size.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: edu on July 11, 2012, 04:49:47 PM ---Tag-MehirTzedek
I was just about to paste some evidence that terror attacks on Charedis don't necessarily add up to enlistment in the IDF, but I saw you were quicker in your response.
In any case, the link I wanted to supply describes the bus bombing, which killed many charedi jews on a return trip from the Kotel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmuel_HaNavi_bus_bombing
I remember at least some charedis concluded from the bus bombing, that it was a punishment because, there wasn't a separate men and women section for passengers on the bus. Or at least they did not merit Divine Intervention to save them because of this issue.
Other "spiritual" reasons are offered by Charedi ideologues such as Rabbi Amnon Yitzchak, to explain Arab terror. He never says joining the IDF is the solution.
Yerusha, you also made the assumption in your post that there is some link between joining the IDF and increased security. But as long as you have Israeli Ministers of Defense, who are elected to high party positions based on the Arab vote and as long as you have Israeli leadership that believes in the ideology of the "purity of arms" as well as, "land for peace", don't expect a big improvement in security even if the I.D.F. doubles its size.
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Well said.
Yerusha:
Not quite a million Haredim demonstrating yet, but it's a start! http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4256339,00.html
The more the Haredim demonstrate their evil stupidity in fighting against the mitzva of Milchemet Mitzva, the greater will be the Kitrug against them from Shamayim, which is for the good.
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