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Re: 20 people injured in a shoot out at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2012, 07:50:28 PM »
Are Sikhs idalators like Hindus? I've heard they were Hindus but believe in one G-d which they got from Islam and that it's a blend of the two. I also heard from a Hindu nationalist online who was friendly with the "JDL" under Irv Rubin that Westerners made up that Sikhism is a separate religion and he said he's a Sikh Hindu.

The media claims it is a monotheistic faith..

Wiki confirms this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh

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A Sikh (/siːk/ or /sɪk/; Punjabi: ਸਿੱਖ, sikkh [sɪkkʰ]) is a follower of Sikhism, a religion that originated in the 15th century in the Punjab region of South Asia. The term "Sikh" has its origin in Sanskrit term शिष्य (śiṣya), meaning disciple, student, or शिक्ष (śikṣa) ("instruction").[24][25] A Sikh is a disciple/subject of the Guru.

According to Article I of the "Rehat Maryada" (the Sikh code of conduct and conventions), a Sikh is defined as "any human being who faithfully believes in One Immortal Being; ten Gurus, from Guru Nanak Dev to Sri Guru Gobind Singh; Sri Guru Granth Sahib; the teachings of the ten Gurus and the baptism bequeathed by the tenth Guru; and who does not owe allegiance to any other religion".[26] Sikhs believe in the equality of humankind, the concept of universal brotherhood of man and One Supreme God (Ik Onkar).

Most male Sikhs have Singh (lion) and most female Sikhs Kaur (princess) as their surname. Sikhs who have undergone the khanḍe-kī-pahul, the Sikh initiation ceremony, can also be recognized by the Five Ks: uncut hair (Kesh); an iron/steel bracelet (kara); a Kirpan, a sword tucked in a gatra strap; Kachehra, a type of special shorts; and a Kanga, a small comb to keep the hair clean. Male Sikhs cover their hair with a turban, while female Sikhs may wear a turban or a headscarf.
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Re: 20 people injured in a shoot out at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek
« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2012, 10:23:48 PM »
The media claims it is a monotheistic faith..

Wiki confirms this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh
I like Sikhs and Hindus and support them both against pisslam.

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Re: 20 people injured in a shoot out at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2012, 01:01:54 AM »
Eating meat killed in a ritualistic manner (Kutha meat): Sikhs are strictly prohibited from eating meat killed in a ritualistic manner (such as halal or kosher, known as Kutha meat[7] ), or any meat where langar is served.[8] In some small Sikh Sects, i.e. Akhand Kirtani Jatha eating any meat is believed to be forbidden, but this is not a universally held belief.[9] The meat eaten by Sikhs is known as Jhatka meat.

Yet it seems they have their own slaughter.

Jhatka or Chatka meat (Hindi झटका Hindustani pronunciation: [dʒʰəʈkɑ] jhaṭkā, Punjabi: ਝਟਕਾ IPA: [tʃə̀ʈkɑ] chàṭkā, from Sanskrit ghātaka "killing") is meat from an animal which has been killed by a single strike of a sword or axe to sever the head, as opposed to Jewish slaughter (shechita) or Islamic slaughter (dhabihah) in which the animal is killed by ritually slicing the throat.

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Re: 20 people injured in a shoot out at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2012, 01:02:28 AM »
They're hypocrites.

Jhatka for Sikhs is the antithesis[1][2] of ritual slaughter. As stated in the official Khalsa Code of Conduct,[3] Kutha meat is forbidden, and Sikhs are recommended to eat the jhatka form of meat, as they do not believe that any ritual gives meat a spiritual virtue (ennobles the flesh).[4][5]
 
For Sikhs jhatka karna or jhatkaund refers to the instantaneous severing of the head of an animal with a single stroke of any weapon, with the underlying intention of killing the animal whilst causing it minimal suffering.
 
During the British Raj, jhatka meat was not allowed in jails and Sikh detainees during the Akali movement and beyond had to resort to violence and agitations to secure this right. Among the terms in the settlement between the Akalis and the Muslim Unionist government in Punjab in 1942 was that jhatka meat be continued as a Sikh Martial Heritage.

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Re: 20 people injured in a shoot out at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek
« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2012, 08:27:03 AM »
Hindu and Sikh both if they eat meat are supposed to eat only Jhataka meat. Sikhs do it firmly on sacred religious grounds but Hindus sometimes keep on failing.

All kinds of opinions keep on rolling and coming and going whether Sikhs are not Hindus or Sikhs are among Hindus or Sikhs are only real Hindus.

I am not Sikh but out of their 5 Ks, I regularly apply 4 Ks.
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Re: 20 people injured in a shoot out at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek
« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2012, 11:23:21 AM »
I wonder if any Sikhs at JTF.

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Re: 20 people injured in a shoot out at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2012, 12:47:31 PM »
Sikhism or Jainism or Buddhism may sound different to the outsider. But for us all these are conglomerate of Hinduism.


Sacred places/Holy places of Sikhs/Jains/Buddhists are common.

For example Mount Kailash is famous holy place for Hindus as well as Tibetans Monks. Hindus have stories denoting how Hindu deities are symbolized by these mountains, while Tibetan Buddhists have stories claiming their oldest monks to thave attained nirvana there. The Highest Sikh Guru (Guru Nanak) extensively traveled across Himalayas and considered mount kailash to have spiritual significance.

In Sikh holy books (Guru granth Sahib), Both Muslim G-d (Allah) and Hindu deity (Ram) are mentioned as different names of the same One Almighty G-d.

Majority of Hindus in India believe that Sikhism was started as per the will of the G-d, to fight Islamic effect/rule in India, as well as to reduce the animosity between Hindus and Muslims

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Re: 20 people injured in a shoot out at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2012, 02:58:28 PM »
If this was a neo-Nazi then it probably wasn't a case of mistaken identity because Nazis support Muslims.
I wonder if the Pakistanis had any connections to this… Hmmm…