Doesn't anyone learn from History?

[muman613]

Are young adults today totally devoid of any historical perspective? When I was in junior high school and high school we were taught a bit about world history, and one of the topics was 'Islamic Conquest'. This historical period started with the rise of  the false prophet Mohamud, till his warriors conquered the entire arabian peninsula.

Here is a recounting of this history from the wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest

Muslim conquests (Arabic: الغزوات‎, al-Ġazawāt or Arabic: الفتوحات الإسلامية‎, al-Fatūḥāt al-Islāmiyya) also referred to as the Islamic conquests or Arab conquests,[1] began with the Islamic prophet Muhammad. He established a new unified polity in the Arabian Peninsula which under the subsequent Rashidun (The Rightly Guided Caliphs) and Umayyad Caliphates saw a century of rapid expansion of Muslim power.

They grew well beyond the Arabian Peninsula in the form of a Muslim Empire with an area of influence that stretched from the borders of China and the Indian subcontinent, across Central Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, Sicily, and the Iberian Peninsula, to the Pyrenees. Edward Gibbon writes in The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire:

Under the last of the Umayyad, the Arabian empire extended two hundred days’ journey from east to west, from the confines of Tartary and India to the shores of the Atlantic Ocean. And if we retrench the sleeve of the robe, as it is styled by their writers, the long and narrow province of march of a caravan. We should vainly seek the indissoluble union and easy obedience that pervaded the government of Augustus and the Antonines; but the progress of Islam diffused over this ample space a general resemblance of manners and opinions. The language and laws of the Quran were studied with equal devotion at Samarcand and Seville: the Moor and the Indian embraced as countrymen and brothers in the pilgrimage of Mecca; and the Arabian language was adopted as the popular idiom in all the provinces to the westward of the Tigris.

That was the 1st Islamic expansion,  Here is a list of other islamic conquests in history:

1.1 Muhammad's campaigns
1.2 Byzantine–Arab Wars: 634–750
1.3 Conquest of Persia and Iraq: 633–651
1.4 Conquest of Transoxiana: 662–751
1.5 Conquest of Sindh: 664–712
1.6 Conquest of Hispania (711–718) and Septimania (719–720)
1.7 Conquest of the Caucasus: 711–750
1.8 End of the Umayyad conquests: 718–750
1.9 Conquest of Nubia: 700–1606
1.10 Incursions into southern Italy: 831–902
1.11 Conquest of Anatolia: 1060–1360
1.12 Byzantine-Ottoman Wars: 1299–1453
1.13 Further conquests: 1200–1800
1.14 Decline and collapse: 1800–1924

What is amazing is that when you say Islam is a religion which seeks to conquer the world people look at you like your a racist hater. But history is history, and Islam has not reformed, and it has become more jihadist. Islam certainly feels it is in ascendancy and thus they feel superior to Jews and Christians.

Islam surely seeks to dominate the entire world. They have already attempted to spread their vile beliefs across the face of the world... They must be defeated...

[briann]

Today, the only time kids learn about Islam.... is when they are being taught about Islamaphobia... and of course... the invention of 'zero'.

[The One and Only Mo]

As a Muslim, I am deeply offended 

[angryChineseKahanist]

they invented nothing.
all of their "inventions" were conquered items.
just look at them TODAY!
they're as dumb as box of lead.

[syyuge]

No one learns from the history, that is why the history is always under the threat of being repeated.

[IsraelForever]

Why are the Israeli's not learning from recent history; i.e., the Shoah?  There's another Hitler two doors down (so to speak) and they have allowed him to get this far with his nuclear, wipe-out-Israel, mentality.  Are historians going to G-d forbid say that the Israeli's, of all people, haven't learned from history?

NEVER AGAIN!

[Israel Chai]

First, you seem to have, so lets factor: do most people learn from history= no
=do most people learn + do most people know history= no
=(do most people think x do most people want to learn) + (do most people know actual history or revisionist lies x do most people do what they know is right/smart)= no

x= history will continue repeating itself

[IsraelForever]

x= history will continue repeating itself

Well, then considering Jewish history, this will be very bad for Jewish people.  As far as Jewish history goes, may G-d prevent history from repeating.  And this precisely why that Iranian Hitler MUST BE STOPPED!

NEVER AGAIN!

[Israel Chai]

Well, then considering Jewish history, this will be very bad for Jewish people.  As far as Jewish history goes, may G-d prevent history from repeating.  And this precisely why that Iranian Hitler MUST BE STOPPED!

NEVER AGAIN!

And you're just repeating the other side of the same coin. Say what you will, you can't stop this. Get a gun and do laps and crunches. The rag clad camel jockeys are coming no matter what. The only difference you can make in regards to that is to be more ready. That's what makes the difference.

[Khan Krum]

Greatest threats to Europeans were fascism and communism. But these are gone. Can the Europeans survive Islam? I hope so. I want the rise of nationalism in Europe now.

[Nachus]

 


Many of today's young adults are very foolish and they lack any type of intelligent, sensible perspective on anything. They are brainwashed, conditioned, and influenced by media and other factors that shape their views and lull them into apathy and ignorance. Conversely, many of the older generation while their values are generally different, frequently display a complacent and cynical attitude toward many issues and this not learning from history seems to run the gamut from young to old.
But there are of course, always exceptions. And hopefully, we must pray that there will be more and more of them. 

[Khan Krum]

Many of today's young adults are very foolish and they lack any type of intelligent, sensible perspective on anything. They are brainwashed, conditioned, and influenced by media and other factors that shape their views and lull them into apathy and ignorance. Conversely, many of the older generation while their values are generally different, frequently display a complacent and cynical attitude toward many issues and this not learning from history seems to run the gamut from young to old.
But there are of course, always exceptions. And hopefully, we must pray that there will be more and more of them.

That is why there is such worship of politicians.

[cjd]

Many of today's young adults are very foolish and they lack any type of intelligent, sensible perspective on anything. They are brainwashed, conditioned, and influenced by media and other factors that shape their views and lull them into apathy and ignorance. Conversely, many of the older generation while their values are generally different, frequently display a complacent and cynical attitude toward many issues and this not learning from history seems to run the gamut from young to old.
But there are of course, always exceptions. And hopefully, we must pray that there will be more and more of them.

This person gets it! The best post in the entire thread! Sadly I think things are actually going to get a bit worse before they get better... Its not that young people are foolish its that they have been conditioned to accept things that they should never have... As for the older folks at some point people get beaten down and concentrate on just living out their life as best as possible for the duration of time G-d gives them... Older folks that give to much trouble are looked at today as being a bit off or just old and cranky... As the old expression goes " You can't fight city hall"  The paradigm has shifted with todays younger intermingled society... Young people today believe that things are as they should be as far as social issues go... Only when things get so bad that people will have to do without or face personal danger will the alarm bell go off that things in society took a very wrong turn... Most younger people today believe government is the answer to everything and have been conditioned to accept cradle to grave government  existence... Little do they realize they are living a goldfish bowl existence waiting for the government to sprinkle out a few flakes of food.

[Rubystars]

I think the way that liberals see it, what really actually happened in history is irrelevant. There have already been history channel specials claiming things like that George Washington had openly gay people serving under him, etc. Soon it's quite possible maybe within the next decade that it will be taught that the founding fathers were a diverse mix, including blacks, muslims, Latinos, and women. What happened in reality doesn't matter to the history teachers of today. They seem more interested in what will best serve their agenda and social movements, and not in teaching accurate history.

[Israel Chai]

Its diffrent that just that though, its not just that they tell you to like and/or want every form of deviation and corruption, it's that they make you hate them and want them at the same time. You don't want to hear a single word other than what you were made to believe though essaies and conversations that everyone somehow decides on the same exact opinion about it, especially when they knew nothing about the facts about whatever element of morality, prosperity or life the liberals are trying to say is not liberally pious enough. You'll be well versed in all the lies you need to make you think you know anything about politics, and then you say you don't care about that stuff, indiviudally you'll debate for every liberal policitcal ideal, and of course say "in theory, communism is perfect", but every conversation with these people you will be reminded how little they care about something they firmly believe in and are more than happy to explain in detail how firmly they do. That's the point of a prison for the mind, it's not comfortable when you start to notice its there. Nobody has to agrree with the whole plan either, its not like each one is planning out to destroy society. All it takes is for you to beleive in one ideal, and support that, and maybe you'll accept more, or maybe you'll hate some of the other people on your side that do diffrent corrupt things for ideals, but it advances as a group, so as its as easy as possible for everyone to accidently lend a hand, but the aim is for your mind, because why worry about whether people fear or love you if you become their identity?

[cjd]

I think the way that liberals see it, what really actually happened in history is irrelevant. There have already been history channel specials claiming things like that George Washington had openly gay people serving under him, etc. Soon it's quite possible maybe within the next decade that it will be taught that the founding fathers were a diverse mix, including blacks, muslims, Latinos, and women. What happened in reality doesn't matter to the history teachers of today. They seem more interested in what will best serve their agenda and social movements, and not in teaching accurate history.

True enough... The revisionist have already done a good hatchet job on Thomas Jefferson with their Sally Hemings story... Even though DNA tests are problematic on the issue the story is still pushed along because liberals need to show the founding fathers as abusive slave holders.

[Khan Krum]

I think the way that liberals see it, what really actually happened in history is irrelevant. There have already been history channel specials claiming things like that George Washington had openly gay people serving under him, etc. Soon it's quite possible maybe within the next decade that it will be taught that the founding fathers were a diverse mix, including blacks, muslims, Latinos, and women. What happened in reality doesn't matter to the history teachers of today. They seem more interested in what will best serve their agenda and social movements, and not in teaching accurate history.

We heterosexual, non-pisslamic/atheist White men, are hated more than anything else because we built the world so naturally we rule it, but because we ruled it we are seen like oppressors!!!
I found this truthful and funny website about un-appreciated White men.

[Israel Chai]

http://angrywhitedude.com/2012/08/dnc-reveals-republican-vp-candidate-paul-ryan-invented-cancer/ lol not a bad site

[Khan Krum]

http://angrywhitedude.com/2012/08/dnc-reveals-republican-vp-candidate-paul-ryan-invented-cancer/ lol not a bad site

Thank you for sharing! I didn't see that before when I first saw the site, but I'm glad I did now!