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Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« on: August 19, 2012, 12:03:31 PM »
Sounds like a good possibility, at first read, that Netenyahu may go for it.   


http://www.debka.com/article/22287/US-Israeli-deal-on-Iran-No-Israeli-strike-now-if-Obama-pledged-a-spring-attack

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Re: Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2012, 01:04:51 PM »
NO, anything Obama says is a LIE.
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Re: Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2012, 01:59:13 PM »
Say we won't attack, but attack asap, yes, i am suggesting deception.

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Re: Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2012, 02:12:26 PM »
Obama is not a man of his word... Everything he ever promised he has been unable to deliver. I would NEVER EVER accept a deal like that...
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Re: Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2012, 02:13:01 PM »
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Debka is notoriously unreliable. They just make things up and then claim to have "sources". There is no way that Obama is promising to attack Iran in the spring or any other time. This story is one big fairy tale.

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Re: Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 02:20:42 PM »
Debka is lying. Osama refused to give any deadline for attack or even to say that he would declare an ultimatum to Iran. If he would, he would obviously be flat out lying about it.

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Re: Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 02:46:11 PM »
Obama knows that if anyone attacks Iran before the elections, he will lose.
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Re: Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2012, 02:51:56 PM »
Who can believe in all this. So many springs have already passed.
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Re: Should Israel take Obama's new deal on Iran?
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2012, 02:58:34 PM »
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Debka is notoriously unreliable. They just make things up and then claim to have "sources". There is no way that Obama is promising to attack Iran in the spring or any other time. This story is one big fairy tale.

Perhaps, Perhaps not.     Here's  a recent article dated  August 14, 2012, from the Times of Israel " Obama set to assure Israel that, if all else fails, US will attack Iran by June 2013-TV report. 

I don't trust Obama, but I do think it's Quite Possible that he did assure Israel that, if all else fails, US will attack Iran by June 2013.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-set-to-assure-israel-that-if-all-else-fails-us-will-attack-iran-by-june-2013-tv-report/


Here's the article:

Obama set to assure Israel that, if all else fails, US will attack Iran by June 2013 — TV reportChannel 10 says explicit US commitment, designed to ensure Israel holds its fire, could be issued at Obama-Netanyahu meet this fallBy Aaron Kalman and Times of Israel staff August 14, 2012, 8:49 pm 21  Share on emailEmailShare on printPrintShareIsrael's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with US president Barack Obama in the White House in March (photo credit: Amos Ben Gershom/GPO/FLASH90)Related TopicsIsraeli strike on IranUS electionsIran's nuclear programAmerican and Israeli officials are working to arrange a meeting between US President Barack Obama and  Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at which the White House will assure Israel that the US will use force to stop Iran’s nuclear weapons drive by next June at the latest if the Islamic Republic has not halted its program by then, Israel’s Channel 10 news reported on Tuesday night.

The meeting will take place in New York or Washington at the end of September or the very beginning of October, the report said. David Axelrod, senior strategist in Obama’s re-election campaign, is coordinating arrangements for the meeting, the report said.

The key formulation being discussed for Obama to assure Netanyahu is that the US “will attack Iran by June 2013″ if the Iranian nuclear weapons drive has not halted by then, the report said.

Despite incessant reports from Israel asserting that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are strongly inclined toward ordering an Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities in September or October, the US administration tends not to believe that Israel would go ahead and attack Iran alone and in defiance of the US, the report said. Nonetheless, Washington is not certain of what Israel may do.

The White House is thus looking to reassure Israel and reduce the prime minister’s concern that, if Israel does not intervene militarily, nobody else will and the Iranians will get the bomb — a situation Netanyahu has made clear he considers untenable, since it would place the Jewish state under existential threat.

It would be unthinkable for Israel to strike at Iran before any such Obama-Netanyahu meeting, the report said, and similarly unthinkable afterwards — since Obama would provide the necessary reassurance for Israel to hold its fire.

Netanyahu is already tentatively scheduled to fly to the US at the end of September to address the UN General Assembly.

The report made no mention of whether any reassurance provided by Obama would be coordinated with Republican presidential challenger Mitt Romney.

On Tuesday, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said he did not believe Israel had made a decision to strike, Reuters reported. He added that sanctions should still be given time to work.

On Monday, Israeli TV reports had quoted unnamed US sources saying the US would not necessarily join in were Israel to launch a military strike against Iran’s nuclear program, but that the US feels a profound commitment to the defense of Israel, and so could be relied upon to protect Israel defensively from the consequences of an Israeli attack on Iran.

Also Monday, White House spokesman Jay Carney said the US was committed to giving talks with Tehran a chance to bear fruit. ”We continue to believe there is time and space for diplomacy, the opportunity remains for Iran to take advantage of this process,” Carney told reporters, AFP reported.

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