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muman613:

--- Quote from: Ephraim on August 20, 2012, 09:50:40 PM ---Enough you two! Muman, you started this with your very first post! Dan, I don't understand your negative stance on mysticism? It has been part of Judaism from the beginning, maybe not all sect but some! And some mysticism from Israel has been past down in secret, including the seven Noachide laws!

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I didn't start this thread.... I responded to it..

muman613:

--- Quote from: Ephraim on August 20, 2012, 09:50:40 PM ---Enough you two! Muman, you started this with your very first post! Dan, I don't understand your negative stance on mysticism? It has been part of Judaism from the beginning, maybe not all sect but some! And some mysticism from Israel has been past down in secret, including the seven Noachide laws!

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Mysticism has been a part of Judaism since before there were Jews on the planet. The 1st books of Kabbalah are attributed to Adam, and others are attributed to Abraham...

Look into the concept of the Torah existing for 2000 years before the creation of the world.... Which comes from..... The Talmud...


--- Quote ---The Midrash tells us that Hashem created the Torah two thousand years before He created the universe (Midrash Beraishis Rabbah, 8). When the time came to create the universe, Hashem used the Torah as a blueprint. Just as a builder places walls where the blueprint says to put them, and doors where the blueprint says to put them, Hashem created the Torah and used that as a blueprint. (Midrash Beraishis Rabbah 1:1)

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Ephraim Ben Noach:

--- Quote from: muman613 on August 20, 2012, 09:53:06 PM ---I didn't start this thread.... I responded to it..

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No! Muman your first response was directed at Dan!

muman613:

--- Quote from: Ephraim on August 20, 2012, 09:55:33 PM --- No! Muman your first response was directed at Dan!

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Not exactly true.... I only reacted when Dan started his attack on Chabad...

My first response on this thread was just agreeing that Acher Metzora has gone 'off-the-derek' so to speak..

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,63320.msg556998.html#msg556998

In response to this:

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,63320.msg557029.html#msg557029


--- Quote ---I do like his videos exposing Christianity, Islam, the black Hebros, and Chabad though.  They are lashon ha-awesome.
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Ephraim Ben Noach:

--- Quote from: muman613 on August 20, 2012, 09:58:51 PM ---Not exactly true.... I only reacted when Dan started his attack on Chabad...

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,63320.msg556998.html#msg556998

In response to this:

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,63320.msg557029.html#msg557029

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OK, but this seemed directed at two members"This shmutz-bag was held up here by some members a few months ago."

And I have to say this Meza is a total piece of garbage!

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