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Offline Yisrael

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Israeli Doctors Once Again do The Impossible
« on: July 01, 2007, 06:23:55 PM »
Doctors have managed to extract eggs from 5 -year-old girls and freeze them for use when they are old enough to have children. The scientific advance, which was thought to be impossible, will enable girls suffering childhood cancers such as leukemia to become parents later in life. Thousands are left infertile each year after undergoing chemotherapy.

It also opens the possibility of storing girls’ eggs to protect them against any form of infertility in later life.

Previously it was believed the eggs of young girls were too immature to be extracted.

Israeli doctors have, however, managed to extract the eggs and then culture them in test-tubes to make them viable. The resulting eggs are no different to those of a 20-year-old girl, say the doctors.

(Source: Fox News)

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Re: Israeli Doctors Once Again do The Impossible
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 06:33:49 PM »
Wow thats a pretty big step into fertility treatment...

It is quite scary, honestly speaking.

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2007, 01:54:14 AM »
Scary?  Nonsense!  This is wonderful!  Another example of the geniuses in Israel and how the world is a better place because Israel exists.  This is an indication of the love of life that Jews in Israel have, let's just make sure we don't give this technology to the ay-rabs.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2007, 04:30:40 PM »
It is scary, seeing how the world has advanced so much. When a beneficial branch of science has been opened it also leads to bad things..........this discovery will probably help other aspects of gentics in investigation and possibly even cloning.

Messing around with embryos too much never seems completely ethical.

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2007, 08:00:40 PM »
I feel very uneasy about fertility treatments. Things like freezing eggs, artificial insemination. This to me is dangerously close to G-d's territory. I think that couples should try to have babies at a reasonably early age. And if it doesn't work - it doesn't work. Maybe G-d has other plans for them.

I am not against medicine and doctors. It is only assisted reproduction that I mind. I cannot quite articulate why. I guess I feel it should happen spontaneously - as a miracle of a loving marriage.  :-[

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2007, 01:18:18 PM »
I feel very uneasy about fertility treatments. Things like freezing eggs, artificial insemination. This to me is dangerously close to G-d's territory. I think that couples should try to have babies at a reasonably early age. And if it doesn't work - it doesn't work. Maybe G-d has other plans for them.

I am not against medicine and doctors. It is only assisted reproduction that I mind. I cannot quite articulate why. I guess I feel it should happen spontaneously - as a miracle of a loving marriage.  :-[
No, you are right! It is an extremely controversially ethical issue and i'm sure rubbinic scholars would agree with you.

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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2007, 04:25:12 PM »
Nice!
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Re: Israeli Doctors Once Again do The Impossible
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 11:11:38 AM »
These Great Israeli Doctors are perfect examples of why Judaism is Right and why Islam and the Muslims are Wrong !
Did you know that 3 or 4 of the Muslim terrorist involved in the Glasgow,Scotland airport attack were DOCTORS!
How can anybody even begin to put Islam in the same sentence as Judaism...

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Re: Israeli Doctors Once Again do The Impossible
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 11:31:07 AM »
Doctors have managed to extract eggs from 5 -year-old girls and freeze them for use when they are old enough to have children. The scientific advance, which was thought to be impossible, will enable girls suffering childhood cancers such as leukemia to become parents later in life. Thousands are left infertile each year after undergoing chemotherapy.

It also opens the possibility of storing girls’ eggs to protect them against any form of infertility in later life.

Previously it was believed the eggs of young girls were too immature to be extracted.

Israeli doctors have, however, managed to extract the eggs and then culture them in test-tubes to make them viable. The resulting eggs are no different to those of a 20-year-old girl, say the doctors.

(Source: Fox News)


It is amazing stuff. However, is it Jewishly eithical?  We need to ask the rabbis.
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Re: Israeli Doctors Once Again do The Impossible
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 01:04:07 PM »
Doctors have managed to extract eggs from 5 -year-old girls and freeze them for use when they are old enough to have children. The scientific advance, which was thought to be impossible, will enable girls suffering childhood cancers such as leukemia to become parents later in life. Thousands are left infertile each year after undergoing chemotherapy.

It also opens the possibility of storing girls’ eggs to protect them against any form of infertility in later life.

Previously it was believed the eggs of young girls were too immature to be extracted.

Israeli doctors have, however, managed to extract the eggs and then culture them in test-tubes to make them viable. The resulting eggs are no different to those of a 20-year-old girl, say the doctors.

(Source: Fox News)


It is amazing stuff. However, is it Jewishly eithical?  We need to ask the rabbis.


Someone should ask this in the ask JTF.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 02:41:20 PM »
Doctors have managed to extract eggs from 5 -year-old girls and freeze them for use when they are old enough to have children. The scientific advance, which was thought to be impossible, will enable girls suffering childhood cancers such as leukemia to become parents later in life. Thousands are left infertile each year after undergoing chemotherapy.

It also opens the possibility of storing girls’ eggs to protect them against any form of infertility in later life.

Previously it was believed the eggs of young girls were too immature to be extracted.

Israeli doctors have, however, managed to extract the eggs and then culture them in test-tubes to make them viable. The resulting eggs are no different to those of a 20-year-old girl, say the doctors.

(Source: Fox News)


It is amazing stuff. However, is it Jewishly eithical?  We need to ask the rabbis.


Someone should ask this in the ask JTF.



Chaim might answer "I dont' know, have to ask the rabbis"  Better to ask a rabbi for the answer. Chaim's not a rabbi.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2007, 03:05:06 PM »
Why didn't he become a rabbi?

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2007, 07:01:33 PM »
Why didn't he become a rabbi?

that makes a good ask jtf question :)....perhaps if you haven't thought of it yet or written it yet, ask it for July 8th...ooo I like that question.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2007, 07:12:14 PM »
Why didn't he become a rabbi?

that makes a good ask jtf question :)....perhaps if you haven't thought of it yet or written it yet, ask it for July 8th...ooo I like that question.

I will actually, thanks.

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Re: Israeli Doctors Once Again do The Impossible
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2007, 10:44:23 AM »
Once again the Superior Minds of Israel demonstrate why they have trampled the ISLAMIC Heathens !
SUBMISSION IS DEATH !

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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2007, 11:40:25 AM »
I think that Jewish Doc's are amazing at what they have been able to achieve for many years... I happen to be a medical student doing rotations right now, and I hope to be able one day to reach similar goals.
All the best and most renowned  Md's are Jewish, but recently I've noticed many Indians coming over to America wanting a piece of the pie. Is that right? Do we really need more foreign doctors, especially Muslims here?
The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2007, 11:46:45 AM »
It's just staggering to read about Jewish achievment over the years. Medicine, science, engineering, electonics, agriculture..........the list is endless. Talk about a blessing unto the world.

Then we look at islam's contribution...........?......................?..................
...........?? Nothing but rape, death and misery.

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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2007, 11:57:51 AM »
Well Congratulations Yasmine,  and good luck with the hospital rotations I know you going to see many qualified personnel around you, mmmmmhhhhhhh. It's just stagering to see what has transpired in the medical field...
I'm speaking from experience not just heresay.