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The Fasting of Seventeenth of Tammuz
« on: July 02, 2007, 10:10:29 PM »
The 17th of Tammuz is mentioned in Nevi'im (Prophets) - as "the fast of the fourth month" (Zechariah 8:19). The Mishnah (Taanit 4:8) lists five calamities that befell the Jewish people on this date:

Moses broke the two tablets of stone on Mount Sinai;
The daily tamid offering ceased to be brought;
The walls of Jerusalem were breached (proceeding to the destruction of the Temple);
Prior to Bar Kokhba's revolt, Roman military leader Apostomus burned a Torah scroll;
An idol was erected in the Temple.
The Babylonian Talmud (Taanit 28b) places the second and fifth tragedies in the First Temple, while dating the third tragedy (breach of Jerusalem) to the Second Temple period. Jerusalem of the First Temple, on the other hand, was breached on the 9th of Tammuz (cf. Jeremiah 52.6-7).

The Seventeenth of Tammuz is the second of the four fasts commemorating the destruction of the Temple and the Jewish exile. It is preceded seven months by the fast of the Tenth of Tevet and arrives three weeks prior to the full-day fast of the Ninth of Av. The last of the four fasts is the Fast of Gedalia, which is observed on the third or fourth day of Tishri.

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Re: The Fasting of Seventeenth of Tammuz
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2007, 05:55:28 AM »
Wow Dexter, you sure do stay up late or get up really early.  :laugh: :laugh: 5 in the morning?  Hehe  Is it because you're out of school now?
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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Re: The Fasting of Seventeenth of Tammuz
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2007, 05:59:47 AM »
Wow Dexter, you sure do stay up late or get up really early.  :laugh: :laugh: 5 in the morning?  Hehe  Is it because you're out of school now?
I went to the synagogue at 6 AM.
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Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

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Re: The Fasting of Seventeenth of Tammuz
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2007, 09:01:20 AM »
Wow Dexter, you sure do stay up late or get up really early.  :laugh: :laugh: 5 in the morning?  Hehe  Is it because you're out of school now?


He's in Israel.



Yes, I'm aware of that, so am I.   :)
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris