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muman613:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on October 09, 2012, 12:04:28 AM ---These are just some opinions from some rabbis within the Yemenite community. Apparently certain forms of electricity use do not meet what they would call a prohibition. Although there are other reasons that they stay away from certain electrical use on Shabbat. As with Kabbalah, there are certain things that have become predominant in the Ashkenazi world which was not always a part of Judaism, and the Yemenite community is one of those communities that are still not completely under the Ashkenazi yoke and reserve the right to interpret for themselves the things that are not universal laws as determined in the Talmud and codified in Mishneh Torah. By the way, this is not to get people to break Shabbat, people should observe Shabbat according to the Jewish community they happen to be in (I believe that's the principle of minhag hamakom).
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You are aware that we are permitted to USE ELECTRICITY on Shabbat, just not Turn On a switch which causes electricity to flow, thus timers and lights already on are just fine.
Also this has nothing to do with Kabbalah, which you seem to have an aversion to. We have argued about Kabbalah, which in my opinion has a long and healthy history in Jewish tradition, so why are you bringing it up here?
I was BORN JEWISH and thus I have a tradition which has been handed down from father to son, for generations. Sometimes it seems to me you are picking and choosing the beliefs which suit your reasoning.
PS: I can find no mention of Yemenites ever saying that it is ok to turn on an electric appliance on Shabbat. Could you find any mention of this or just this article?
muman613:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on October 09, 2012, 01:07:24 AM ---Well the article mentions a Teimani teacher that turned on lights on Shabbat. All I'm doing is posting an interesting find that I had not heard about before. This is similar to Kabbalah because both practices originated in the European communities, and they look at things differently from the Yemenite side. You may have received a certain tradition, but there are other communities who also received traditions that may have differences from yours.
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I have no problem with others minhags or understandings. But I have searched for any other website which discusses the issue of Temani Jews and the question about electricity on Shabbat. Apparently it is not the majority custom to use electricity or I would have found more references to it. But indeed it is a valid question, I don't have any problem with asking questions.
muman613:
To your credit apparently the Temani Jews do have some alternate interpretations to some Halacha:
http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/11623/non-yemenites-who-heat-up-soup-after-the-start-of-shabbat
--- Quote ---The most widely held practice regarding heating up liquids on Shabbat is that it is prohibited, though there are differences of practice between Ashkenazim and Sephardim regarding sauces and such (Sephardim are generally more permissive).
There are Yemenite Jews who practice strictly according to the Rambam's rulings and therefore they will lechatchila, a priori, (i.e. it is 100% permissible) remove cold soup from a refrigerator and place it on a hot plate for heating purposes. For an interesting shiur on the subject from Rav Melamed, rabbi of the Har Bracha yeshiva, see: http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/shiur.asp?id=642
My question is the following: I was told by an old friend of Atara Twersky, the daughter of Rav Soloveitchik, that she also used to heat up soups on Shabbat. I don't know if this means that she was following the practice of her father, or her husband, the Talner Rebbe, Rabbi Isador Yitzchak Twersky.
Does anyone have any knowledge of Rav Soloveitchik's halachic rulings in this area? Are there others who follow this practice?
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edu:
Dan Ben Noah, I do not know of any Yemenite Rabbi today that would permit, turning electricity on and off, in the usual way on Shabbat.
And even if in theory you could find someone, he certainly wouldn't represent the majority view of Yemenite Rabbis.
edu:
By the way muman613 thank you for providing an easy to access source that sums up the halacha regarding electricity.
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