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Re: Is communism bad ?
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2008, 11:10:42 AM »
I think you will enjoy this link about this particular topic:  http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Is communism bad ?
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2008, 11:36:13 PM »
Communism is horrific, the average citizen has no voice and no rights to anything, and anything you earn you do not keep.  Socialism is communism no matter how you slice it.
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Re: Is communism bad ?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2008, 12:20:58 AM »
There are many good books on Communism:  "The Black Book of Communism" if one likes a long tome of the historical facts of Communism as an ideology and its effects wherever it was tried with many facts within the papers via the link above.

Another good book is "I Saw Poland Betrayed" about the West's total abandonment of Poland's National Party only to fall via civil war to the Russian Bear.

"Red Horizons" is a good book to understand what Romania was like under Communism as well how its dictators would go to such lengths to both play against each other as well infiltrate the West.

One could read the bio of Armandhammer as well or Arther Herman's book about Joseph McCarthy.  G-d I've got so many books on this subject....
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Does communism is bad ?
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2008, 04:35:52 AM »
Why do you think thet cummonism is bad, why does economic equality is bad ?
What economic regime do you support ?


Communism is bad because it is a system where government controls people and denies freedom. It has failed everywhere it has been tried. Economic equality is an impossible dream because nobody is equal. We don't all have the same intelligence, the same talent, the same business accumen, same skill, same motivation. History has shown that only freedom works.
You are talking about the communist regime of the Proletariat (as Stalin regim), im talking about the "pure" communism.

Perhaps your suggesting the Lumpenproletariat when you refer to Stalinism, however certainly the "dictatorship of the proletariat" is an ultimate goal under what you might articulate as the manifest of communism.
Lumpenproletariat , is  the term used for the hordes of workers in the fabrics, during the 19th century, in European countries.
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Re: Is communism bad ?
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2008, 03:53:16 PM »
Why is the profit motive so necessary?

No Jew believes in his religion for a profit, but rather, because he believes there are other benefits of it, correct?

Why not with labor? Work because we want to be creative or because we want to better the lives of our fellow man?

Why is this disgusting profit motive so vital?
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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2008, 01:22:45 AM »
Yes, it is bad.

All of the corruption, nepotism, greed, lies, found in a capitalist society are not reduced or eliminated by communism.

Instead, they become the exclusive domain of the Communist Party and its Commissars.

All others exist only to further the aims of the Party.

The profit motive is not removed from society...only transferred to the Communist Party hierarchy and its various Secretariats, the only human beings legally allowed to conduct business for the profit of the Communist State.

Communism promises "equality" and "economic justice".

It delivers in full on both of these promises, because only slaves with no economic power are truly equal in this world.

Communism promises "the withering away of the State".

It promises ad infinitum, always claiming that "the proletariat" must labor more and sacrifice more "so that the goal of Communism can eventually be reached".

It is never reached, while the apparatus of the State and an ever growing Bureau inhibit and eventually put a halt to all progress and innovation.

Is life on Earth in a capitalist society hellish at times?

Yes, but it is the greatest socio-economic and political advance in all of history.

It is true that Communism offers a better society than that found in cannibalistic tribes and machete-killing African jungle beasts.

But this is only because The Federal Prison also offers a better society than that found in tribes of cannibals and warlords.

The Prison System also offers universal employment, literacy, health care, a substantial diet, and a place to live, a degree of security, law and order, and a standard of living in which no inmates have unequal housing conditions or unequal incomes.

There has never existed one Communist State which was not encircled in barbed wire, guard towers, dogs, and machine guns; all for the express purpose of stopping any "comrade" from leaving in hopes of a better life.

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Re: Is communism bad ?
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2008, 02:49:02 AM »
All i have to say is...Dex, your a smart kid, and you know what happens to smart people under communism...they get a bit of pol pot style...

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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2008, 05:38:09 AM »
KKKommunism destroys family, culture, people, tradition, language etc! >:(
It unites everyone, everything and all forms into one equal form, which is completely unethical which doesn't work.

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Re: Is communism bad ?
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2008, 10:07:01 AM »
Why is the profit motive so necessary?

No Jew believes in his religion for a profit, but rather, because he believes there are other benefits of it, correct?

Why not with labor? Work because we want to be creative or because we want to better the lives of our fellow man?

Why is this disgusting profit motive so vital?
1.  People tend to work harder when motivated by the reward system which is logical.  Why would anyone want to get better if there is no reward or incentive to do so?  Why do "Humanists", Communists, Socialists and Liberals never view those whom they work with who are lazy, rude and horrible people than pose the questions as those people are: Human and seem to never enter the "humanist" ideal unless they are exterminated because they can't think for themselves and need others to make decisions for them: http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html  Would any professional athelete or individual like Donald Trump work, practice or invent/evolve/progress if there was no incentive to do so?
2.  Jews believe in Judaism because they are teachings for a moral based society where people can lead productive, individual lives and contribute in a meaningful way to their society with an added bonus of a belief in the World to come...
3.  This is Socialist and a "Humanist" position.  The fact of the matter is, if you look at those around you whom you work or study with, most "humans" are out for a good time and lazy.  Without guidelines, rules and even incentives ones society will be akin to primate/stone age africa.  If Oswald Spenger was right in his work "Decline of the West", rules and a structured society creates "Civilization" while the absence of rules and the "enlightened" views produce "culture" which undermines Civilization especially when it is foreign "culture" introduced into ones structured "Civilization".  George Santayana stated “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” with Greece, Carthage and Rome as examples we are now experiencing "The Decline of the West" becasue we have not learned.

Further, the Death Penalty is the most moral of laws as it places the ultimate price/value of human life.  Which apparently most "Humanists" believed as they held human sacrifices and often cannibalism.... ;)

Actaully if you want a good understanding of the answers to the questions you pose there are a few books that are worthy:  "Nine Questions People Ask About Judaism" - Dennis Prager (although I don't like the man necessarily) and "World Perfect" - Spiro (although I totally and emphatically disagree with his last two chapters on the "civil rights" movement and that den of liars and lodge of anti-semites: The United Nations...
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Is communism bad ?
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2008, 10:56:46 PM »
F¤¤K communism...took everything from my grandparents!! >:( >:(

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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2008, 09:22:12 PM »
Communism tries to create bigger bureaucracies and bigger government.  Communism also tries to divide the wealth among those who don't work for it.  Affirmative Action is probably the closest thing we have to communism.
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2008, 09:35:07 PM »
Communism tries to create bigger bureaucracies and bigger government.  Communism also tries to divide the wealth among those who don't work for it.  Affirmative Action is probably the closest thing we have to communism.
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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2008, 05:44:08 PM »
F¤¤K communism...took everything from my grandparents!! >:( >:(
You're not the only one who encountered that. A friend of mine's Kossack grandparents were put in concentration camp,  maybe 6 years old, without any food, by the communists in 1927.
My family lost a lot thanks to Napoleon. >:(
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