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Offline Dr. Dan

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palestinians giving up on a palestine?
« on: November 21, 2012, 05:14:56 PM »
I heard on the radio that some "palestinians" who want normalcy are giving up on the desire of being an independent country.  Quite simply, there is no chance to lead normal lives with this struggle with Israel.

Can anyone verify this?  It's probably like 2 or 3 "pals" saying this.
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Re: palestinians giving up on a palestine?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2012, 05:32:26 PM »
This is the first I'm hearing about it.   My first thought is, "That'll be the day!" 


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Re: palestinians giving up on a palestine?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2012, 05:36:41 PM »
I think I heard it on heraldo rrrrrrrrivera's radio show.  Then again, that means didley.
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Re: palestinians giving up on a palestine?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2012, 05:44:03 PM »
Are the actions of Palestinians and Israelis truly the same? Take a sheet of paper, and list all of the Israeli suicide bombers you can remember; all of the times that Israelis bombed pizza parlors, school cafeterias, wedding receptions, shopping malls, busses. Name all Jewish airplane hijackers .. since 1903. How many Jews were involved in Bali, Madrid, Beslan, the twin towers? How many Arabs have died in pogroms at the hands of Jews, during the last 4,000 years? How many times have Jews decapitated, hanged, dismembered or stoned Arabs? There is no death penalty in Israel. List all other countries in the Middle East which do not execute Arabs.
If there is a cycle of violence … why is that sheet of paper still blank?

Virtually all of the Palestinians killed during the past 12 years were suicide bombers, terrorists killed in gun battles, dissidents lynched by fellow Arabs for their beliefs, women and children used as human shields or foils by their “brave fighters” – and yes, dozens of people who were caught in the line of fire.
Few recall that when Israel began using aircraft to destroy terrorist facilities (following the massacre of Jewish shoppers at a Netanya mall in 01) the Jews actually publicized the targets in advance, in order to minimize Arab civilian casualties.

Every morning, at least one Palestinian wakes up with a smile and the thought, “I’m going to murder some Jews today.” They strap on explosive belts and guns, and search out any soft target they can find – a city bus, a baby, a student, a jogger. Israelis do not wake up in the morning and set out to murder Arabs. In rare instances when a Jew actually injures or kills a Palestinian, he is arrested and prosecuted. Contrast this with the Arab hero who shoots a Jewish baby. This “Arab will be eulogized by Arabs, his family made rich and his picture proudly displayed throughout the Arab world.

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Re: palestinians giving up on a palestine?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2012, 07:24:32 PM »
Excellent post, Dan, and so right on the money. 

And now there's a cease fire.  Just like there always has been.  And, in the near future, the bombs will start coming again from Gaza, as they always have.

The arabs who are occuping Israeli land need a cease fire, of course.  They need it because they're losing badly.  But it seems that they'll never really lose totally because there's always a cease fire. 

The rabbi in that video in another thread here got it right when he quoted Rabbi Kahane who said that this really isn't an arab problem -- it's an Israeli problem.  The Israeli's don't finish the job.


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Re: palestinians giving up on a palestine?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2012, 11:24:47 PM »
Well said, Dan193.
and the Palestinians - that will be a great day. Than, maybe, they'll finally admit they're not a real nation at all and definitely not "the poor little nation that just want Independence".

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Re: palestinians giving up on a palestine?
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2012, 07:21:33 PM »
Anyone who tries to divide Jerusalem had better be prepared for the consequences!