The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
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newman:
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--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on July 11, 2007, 11:34:34 AM ---Thank you, guys. G-d bless you all!
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If you make him a noachide chasid you've done your light unto the nations duty. Also fulfilled prophesy......gentiles grabbing a corner of your garment and all that. :)
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Newman, most Muslims already do many things that Mohammed stole from Judaism.
I honestly believe that Muslims will be more comfortable embracing the religion of One G-d in its original form.
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The Sheva Mitzvot is the original form for gentiles isn't it? That what Jews are here to teach us isn't it?
Zvulun Ben Moshe:
Yes, but (there is one but)….
The Seven Noahide Laws are the following:
• Prohibition of idolatry
• Prohibition of blasphemy
• Prohibition of murder
• Prohibition of theft
• Prohibition of illicit relations
• Prohibition of eating live meat
• Prohibition of failing to establish courts of justice
Mohammed forced the forefathers of the present Muslims to follow these laws, except for two:
1) “Don’t murder” law. Jihad clearly is in violation of this law.
2) “Don’t blaspheme” law. Claiming that G-d said that Jews corrupted the Torah (G-d forbid) is a serious violation of this law.
But, at the same time, Muslims do slightly more than the remaining laws:
1) They circumcise
2) They have dietary laws, called halal, which prohibits pork etc.
3) maybe some more
As you see, if Abdullah says I am against Jihad and I don’t believe in Mohammed, he will become more than Noahide.
Knowing Muslims, I can say that they need more laws to become and stay righteous.
newman:
What's in between a noachide chassid and a Jew apart from a Ger Toshav ? Ger Toshavs only have the seven laws too, they just make a formal pledge before a beit din. If muslims take on more than the seven and less than 613 , what would they be?
Zvulun Ben Moshe:
Newman, Ger Toshavs are supposed to do the following:
1) Reject idolatry
2) Follow the 7 Noachide laws
3) Follow all the 613 mitzvot, except for the prohibition of neveilos.
Muslims, if rejected Islam, would follow most of Ger Toshav laws.
newman:
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on July 11, 2007, 01:16:43 PM ---Newman, Ger Toshavs are supposed to do the following:
1) Reject idolatry
2) Follow the 7 Noachide laws
3) Follow all the 613 mitzvot, except for the prohibition of neveilos.
Muslims, if rejected Islam, would follow most of Ger Toshav laws.
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Even recieving an Aliyah at synagogue and wearing a prayer shawl? I thought those along with peyot etc were for Jews only.
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