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newman:
--- Quote from: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 06:12:43 AM ---What is funny is that you don't have a point. Do you have a question or do you want to insult me some more? It just shows your character. :)
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That WAS the point. You are copping out, just like believers in other failed ideologies like communism.
" well they don't practice TRUE (insert failed ideology here)" . It's all a crock.
ftf:
Firstly, guys, lets be civil, hurling insults that go beyond the truth belittles us, not the person we are trying to inuslt.
It doesn't seam that many points have really been made, other than mindless insults, however, there is one that Abdullah raised that I would specifically like to refute.
--- Quote from: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 03:39:36 AM ---In response to the earlier question here is the definition of a "Innocent civilian"- any non-combatant.
Its is not true that Islam say All non-Muslims are not innocent, actually quite the oppisite. The Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) once said " whoever harms a non-muslim citizen has harmed me" here is a verse from the Holy Qur'an that is of a similar theme- 5:32 " Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land"
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If you give the refference for the quote "whoever harms a non-muslim citizen has harmed me" so i may look at the context I'll be able to comment about it, but for now I'll have to stick to the one that you have referenced.
Lets take this verse as it appears without added notes:
Quran Surah 5 Ayat 32:
"Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits in the land."
Firstly, this verse has no instructions in it for muslims at all "We ordained for the Children of Israel", it is talking about an instruction for Jews, not muslims. Now the definition of "spreading mischeif in the land" is a matter of great dispute, some muslims who do accept this verse as being intended to instruct muslims as well as Jews will also say that speaking against Islam is spreading mischeif in the land, so then this verse becomes an encouragement to kill non-muslims. Now if we look at the end of the verse "even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits" remembering that this verse was addressed at the beginning "We ordained for the Children of Israel" we see that the true intention of this verse is to call Jews evil. So far from being a message of peace, this verse is anti-semitic nazi style propoganda.
Do your research before making another point.
Muck DeFuslims:
Be civil with a Mooslime ?
Why ?
Anyone that belongs to the vile cult of Islime, doesn't deserve civility or respect.
Islam calls for my forced conversion, dhimmitude or death !!
And I'm supposed to be CIVIL with these IslamoNazi bastards ?
Let's get something straight right here and right now.
Every Muslime is my enemy.
No exceptions.
Mohahmhead (excrement be upon the sewer rat) was a mass murderer, rapist, pedophile, liar, terrorist, scumbag thief.
ANYONE that proclaims this vile, psychotic piece of feces to be a prophet and desires to emulate him doesn't deserve to be treated civilly or with respect.
Let there be no confusion: Islam and Mohammedans are the enemies of all free thinking, righteous people everywhere.
They should be treated with the utmost contempt and as harshly and mercilessly as possible until Islam and Mohammedans are no more.
The best way to eradicate Islam is to treat all Muslimes exactly the way the assholey Queeran mandates they should treat non-Slimes.
It's time for Dar al Harb to go on a rampage and teach these Muslime beeyatches who the real dhimmis are.
DEATH TO ISLAM !
DEATH TO THE DISCIPLES OF MOHAM !
[censored] ALLAH THE PAGAN MOON GOD !
newman:
--- Quote from: Muck DeFuslims on July 08, 2007, 09:20:04 AM ---Be civil with a Mooslime ?
Why ?
Anyone that belongs to the vile cult of Islime, doesn't deserve civility or respect.
Islam calls for my forced conversion, dhimmitude or death !!
And I'm supposed to be CIVIL with these IslamoNazi bastards ?
Let's get something straight right here and right now.
Every Muslime is my enemy.
No exceptions.
Mohahmhead (excrement be upon the sewer rat) was a mass murderer, rapist, pedophile, liar, terrorist, scumbag thief.
ANYONE that proclaims this vile, psychotic piece of feces to be a prophet and desires to emulate him doesn't deserve to be treated civilly or with respect.
Let there be no confusion: Islam and Mohammedans are the enemies of all free thinking, righteous people everywhere.
They should be treated with the utmost contempt and as harshly and mercilessly as possible until Islam and Mohammedans are no more.
The best way to eradicate Islam is to treat all Muslimes exactly the way the assholey Queeran mandates they should treat non-Slimes.
It's time for Dar al Harb to go on a rampage and teach these Muslime beeyatches who the real dhimmis are.
DEATH TO ISLAM !
DEATH TO THE DISCIPLES OF MOHAM !
[censored] ALLAH THE PAGAN MOON G-d !
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That's a big 10-4 and an AMEN, brother Muck. ;D ;D ;D
cjd:
--- Quote from: Muck DeFuslims on July 08, 2007, 09:20:04 AM ---Be civil with a Mooslime ?
Why ?
Anyone that belongs to the vile cult of Islime, doesn't deserve civility or respect.
Islam calls for my forced conversion, dhimmitude or death !!
And I'm supposed to be CIVIL with these IslamoNazi bastards ?
Let's get something straight right here and right now.
Every Muslime is my enemy.
No exceptions.
Mohahmhead (excrement be upon the sewer rat) was a mass murderer, rapist, pedophile, liar, terrorist, scumbag thief.
ANYONE that proclaims this vile, psychotic piece of feces to be a prophet and desires to emulate him doesn't deserve to be treated civilly or with respect.
Let there be no confusion: Islam and Mohammedans are the enemies of all free thinking, righteous people everywhere.
They should be treated with the utmost contempt and as harshly and mercilessly as possible until Islam and Mohammedans are no more.
The best way to eradicate Islam is to treat all Muslimes exactly the way the assholey Queeran mandates they should treat non-Slimes.
It's time for Dar al Harb to go on a rampage and teach these Muslime beeyatches who the real dhimmis are.
DEATH TO ISLAM !
DEATH TO THE DISCIPLES OF MOHAM !
[censored] ALLAH THE PAGAN MOON G-d !
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I agree!! In this guys case I agree with you even more because he is a recent convert to this garbage and not someone who was born into it. How can anyone convert to this garbage in light of all the problems and violence Islam is fomenting in the world today.
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