The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
Peace - Salaam - Shalom
ftf:
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--- Quote from: ftf on July 08, 2007, 10:50:26 AM ---The first of the ten commandments instructs us not to give false witness about others, as Abdullah probably doesn't do things to cammels, and isn't a pig you are breaking said commandment by saying that he does. That's my understanding anyway.
I had a really fun debate with a muslim recently, in which we both stated that we believed that the other was unintentionally following satan, we were still very civil to each other though.
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Well that's just peachy.
While your having a nice little tea party with one of those animals, ten of his mates will be trying to rape your mother and sister. Wake up.
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If they threaten me I will respond in like, but as long as they are just talking, I will keep to being civil.
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You're missing the point. Somewhere in the koran there's something about talking peace out one side of your face whilst taking up the sword. Whilst thses people are being civil, they are plotting our deaths.
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How does being rude to them help the situation? I would be civil to someone even while driving a knife through them or firing a gun at them, there is need to be anything but civil.
Muck DeFuslims:
"The first of the ten commandments instructs us not to give false witness about others, as Abdullah probably doesn't do things to cammels, and isn't a pig you are breaking said commandment by saying that he does. That's my understanding anyway."
I didn't say anything untrue about Abdul or Islam and I don't think Newman did either.
"I would be civil to someone even while driving a knife through them or firing a gun at them..."
How about when his friends are driving a knife through or firing a gun at you or your family ?
"I would be civil to someone even while driving a knife through them or firing a gun at them..."
Like when you try to convert Jews ? Or have you given that up ?
ftf:
--- Quote from: Muck DeFuslims on July 08, 2007, 01:55:53 PM ---"The first of the ten commandments instructs us not to give false witness about others, as Abdullah probably doesn't do things to cammels, and isn't a pig you are breaking said commandment by saying that he does. That's my understanding anyway."
I didn't say anything untrue about Abdul or Islam and I don't think Newman did either.
"I would be civil to someone even while driving a knife through them or firing a gun at them..."
How about when his friends are driving a knife through or firing a gun at you or your family ?
"I would be civil to someone even while driving a knife through them or firing a gun at them..."
Like when you try to convert Jews ? Or have you given that up ?
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I have never tried to convert a Jew, all I have said on that issue is that I would believe it right to do so, my religion clearly says that it should be preached to everyone.
I would do my best to be civil to someone even when he was trying to kill me, though I don't know if I'd be able to.
And newman accused Abdul of doing things to a cammel, I am pretty sure that he (Abdul) has never done things to a cammel, and therefore that is something untrue.
It is easy enough to insult Islam by quoting it's holy texts without making stuff up, so don't start making stuff up or all you do is lose your credibility.
Muck DeFuslims:
OK, so here's what we've established about your beliefs:
You believe it is right to convert Jews.
You believe it is right to be civil with someone that is trying to kill you or your family.
I'm diametrically opposed to those beliefs.
And as far as I'm concerned, anyone holding that first belief, whether he practices it or not, doesn't belong here.
ftf:
--- Quote from: Muck DeFuslims on July 08, 2007, 02:27:19 PM ---OK, so here's what we've established about your beliefs:
You believe it is right to convert Jews.
You believe it is right to be civil with someone that is trying to kill you or your family.
I'm diametrically opposed to those beliefs.
And as far as I'm concerned, anyone holding that first belief, whether he practices it or not, doesn't belong here.
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Regarding the first of the two, I've asked Chaim to decide if he thinks I should leave because of it, and I will respect his decision, regarding the second, what does not being civil gain you?
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