Author Topic: Shalom (Read 6592 times)

Dan Ben Noah · « **on:** November 29, 2012, 07:32:56 PM »

Shalom

Every Jew AK47 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 29, 2012, 07:54:59 PM »

Even though it sucks this has happening, it is for the best. The Europeans and Arabs only have one desire for the Jews, "Extermination".

Israel needs to separate itself from the Europeans and Arabs (all Muslims, actually), who have for 100s and 1000s of years tried to oppress, desecrate and finally exterminate the Jewish people. Is it any surprise that the children of those who tortured, raped, robbed, oppressed and murdered us have voted to recognize a country who's entire goal is to do just that?

I think Israel will go through a lot of suffering and struggles, but it is about time we call a spade a spade. We need to stop pretending the Europeans are our friends and accept them as the enemies they truly are. What they did to Serbia, they would do to Israel in a heartbeat if they didn't fear Israel could wipe out all their cities. I hate to say Mutually Assured Destruction is the only thing that keeps the Europeans and Arabs from wiping out the Jewish race and state of Israel.

They will perform BOYCOTTS and even probably punish the Jews living in their countries in the name of "Palestine". Europe is becoming more and more Islamic. Thankfully, most Jew-hating European women are feminazis and don't desire to have children, so the birthrate of Europeans is decreasingly rapidly to the point where the "white" European continent will inevitably face extinction in the next two or three centuries. Sadly, the birthrate of Europeans is being replaced with a very high birthrate of Islamic savages. In the next century, France, England, Germany and perhaps, even Italy, will become Islamic countries.

It is time we face the truth and stop pretending we actually have friends among those in Europe with white skin. I would say outside of USA, the average white folk are libtard morons or uber-left wing national socialist types/nazi types. Even many white people in the USA don't like Jews, outside of the Christian Right, who's intentions may be noble, but not always.

Need, I mention that the consensus of African nations obviously is anti-Israel. Funding by Jew-hating Europeans and Arabs in Africa have aligned Africans against the Jews, as Africans generally just follow the will of their financial supporters. There are a group of Africans who support Israel unabashed. Who are they? THose who are funded and supported by the Christian American Right. Go figure.. LOL

Israel's only friends lie to the Far East , such as India and Philippines. Sadly, even many Asian countries are either Islamicized or whores to the United Nazis organization, such as Indonesia, Malaysia and South Korea.

briann · « **Reply #2 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:09:05 PM »

Quote from: EveryJewA44 on November 29, 2012, 07:54:59 PM

Even though it sucks this has happening, it is for the best. The Europeans and Arabs only have one desire for the Jews, "Extermination".

Israel needs to separate itself from the Europeans and Arabs (all Muslims, actually), who have for 100s and 1000s of years tried to oppress, desecrate and finally exterminate the Jewish people. Is it any surprise that the children of those who tortured, raped, robbed, oppressed and murdered us have voted to recognize a country who's entire goal is to do just that?

I think Israel will go through a lot of suffering and struggles, but it is about time we call a spade a spade. We need to stop pretending the Europeans are our friends and accept them as the enemies they truly are. What they did to Serbia, they would do to Israel in a heartbeat if they didn't fear Israel could wipe out all their cities. I hate to say Mutually Assured Destruction is the only thing that keeps the Europeans and Arabs from wiping out the Jewish race and state of Israel.

They will perform BOYCOTTS and even probably punish the Jews living in their countries in the name of "Palestine". Europe is becoming more and more Islamic. Thankfully, most Jew-hating European women are feminazis and don't desire to have children, so the birthrate of Europeans is decreasingly rapidly to the point where the "white" European continent will inevitably face extinction in the next two or three centuries. Sadly, the birthrate of Europeans is being replaced with a very high birthrate of Islamic savages. In the next century, France, England, Germany and perhaps, even Italy, will become Islamic countries.

It is time we face the truth and stop pretending we actually have friends among those in Europe with white skin. I would say outside of USA, the average white folk are libtard morons or uber-left wing national socialist types/nazi types. Even many white people in the USA don't like Jews, outside of the Christian Right, who's intentions may be noble, but not always.

Need, I mention that the consensus of African nations obviously is anti-Israel. Funding by Jew-hating Europeans and Arabs in Africa have aligned Africans against the Jews, as Africans generally just follow the will of their financial supporters. There are a group of Africans who support Israel unabashed. Who are they? THose who are funded and supported by the Christian American Right. Go figure.. LOL

Israel's only friends lie to the Far East , such as India and Philippines. Sadly, even many Asian countries are either Islamicized or whores to the United Nazis organization, such as Indonesia, Malaysia and South Korea.

TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!!

Every Jew AK47 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:16:33 PM »

Dumbsh*t... You can ask my rabbi if I am a troll.. I've put my share of time defending the Jewish race... Most Europeans hate Jews, regardless of color. It is just that many Jewish people think white EUropeans are the friends of the Jews.

Its the fact that most Europeans hate Jews.. Get your head out of your [censored]..

BTW, are you Jewish or a goy? I like to know if you know what life is like being a Jew.

Tag-MehirTzedek · « **Reply #4 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:18:56 PM »

I dont see what was said should get the response of "Troll alert". Europeans (as a whole) hate Jews. What is the problem with that statement?

Every Jew AK47 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:19:59 PM »

Brian the schmuck is the troll... Brian, how did you last so long on a Kahanist website like this?

Sorry, I'm a bit pissed.. I never been called a troll on a Kahanist site before for defending my own people.

Maybe this idiot can use a history lesson. Ever heard of the holocaust? 6,000,000 dead Jews murdered at the hands of mostly white, Jew-hating Europeans. The same ones sitting at the UN and advocating for the destruction of the Jewish state along with their inbred Islamic monkey friends.

muman613 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:28:57 PM »

Essau Hates Jacob, this is what my Rabbi told me when I spoke with him the other night. It is a fact of Jewish existence.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2665/jewish/Why-Does-Esau-Hate-Jacob.htm

http://www.aish.com/tp/i/wbr/48923487.html

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A Question: What does Rabbi Shimon mean when he says "It is a law that Esau hates Jacob"? What kind of "law" is this? That's a strange term to use. He could say Esau (the gentiles) hate the Jews. But to call this a law is quite unusual. And if is a "law" why is this case an exception?

http://www.torah.org/features/secondlook/antisem.html

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So has anti-Semitism disappeared? Hardly. "Esau hates Jacob" is one of the fundamental spiritual principles governing our world, our Sages tell us. Hatred of Jacob may take many forms, but it will never go away.

Jew hatred today rarely takes the form of racial anti-Semitism. Rather it is directed at the idea of the Jews as a nation. And Israel, however imperfect a model of Jewish nationhood it may be, signifies to the world the assertion of Jewish peoplehood.

briann · « **Reply #7 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:36:50 PM »

Quote from: EveryJewA44 on November 29, 2012, 08:19:59 PM

Brian the schmuck is the troll... Brian, how did you last so long on a Kahanist website like this?

Sorry, I'm a bit pissed.. I never been called a troll on a Kahanist site before for defending my own people.

I see.... so because your rabbi is better than mine... that somehow makes you less of a troll..

Obvious these countries governments and many of their citizens are pathetic no good leftist jew haters... I would never try to argue against that.... I post articles all the time about Jew hatred at the hands of these countries.

But you You are telling us to DITCH some of our best members... This is what every troll does...
You specifically told us to STOP PRETENDING as you said... that these people support Israel and want to help us....

You think we are a bunch of idiots for allowing these EVIL Europeans and Asians to join this site... because you think they are PRETENDING to support Israel....

You are a Troll!!!!

Ephraim Ben Noach · « **Reply #8 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:37:18 PM »

Quote from: EveryJewA44 on November 29, 2012, 08:19:59 PM

Brian the schmuck is the troll... Brian, how did you last so long on a Kahanist website like this?

Sorry, I'm a bit pissed.. I never been called a troll on a Kahanist site before for defending my own people.

please, don't call Brian a schmuck!

briann · « **Reply #9 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:39:24 PM »

Quote from: Ephraim on November 29, 2012, 08:37:18 PM

please, don't call Brian a schmuck!

Thanks Ephriam....

But maybe I shouldnt talk to you.... because after all... people like you are just 'PRETENDING' to support Israel.

Every Jew AK47 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:40:52 PM »

Insulting a Kahansit Jew, because I think Europeans in general are Jew-haters.. Wow.. I will call Brian a schmuck if I please, because he is!

Fine, throw me off.. The Jewish Defense League isn't this naive and doesn't treat their members like dogs like here.

You are a troll and idiots like you are why we JEws suffer, because we create divisions and kiss the [censored] of our enemies.

I never advocated for throwing anybody off the site.. WTF are you talking about? If there are EUropeans who support the Jewish people, I will defend them and consider them a friend or brother just as anyone else. You seem to either lack intelligence or just take what I say completely out of context.

Are you even Jewish?? My grandmother's entire village in Europe was exterminated by white Europeans who hated us. All my aunts, uncles, cousins were massacred in Belarus. Of course, you sit behind your computer and make liberal insults at people and you don't even know why.. Maybe it makes you feel like your life has more purpose. You don't seem to know jack about the Jewish people. Go read a history book..

Oh I am a troll, cause I think the Jew-hating Europeans hate us?? Even on the JTF forum, Chaim Ben Pesach talks about the horrible things being done by European leftists.

I will advocate my point again, "Europe is not our friend, EUROPE IS OUR ENEMY!!"

briann · « **Reply #11 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:49:54 PM »

Quote from: EveryJewA44 on November 29, 2012, 08:40:52 PM

Insulting a Kahansit Jew, because I think Europeans in general are Jew-haters.. Wow.. I will call Brian a schmuck if I please, because he is!

Fine, throw me off.. The Jewish Defense League isn't this naive and doesn't treat their members like dogs like you do.

You are troll and idiots like you are why we JEws suffer, because we create divisions and kiss the [censored] of our enemies.

I never advocated for throwing anybody off the site.. WTF are you talking about? If there are EUropeans who support the Jewish people, I will defend them and consider them a friend or brother just as anyone else. You seem to either lack intelligence or just take what I say complete ly out of context.

I am a troll, cause I think the Jew-hating Europeans hate us??

No, this is not at all what you said.. your comment was meant to divide our movement. Its very obvious. You told us we need to: stop pretending we actually have friends among those in Europe with white skin

You didnt say... many Europeans with white skin hate Jews...... If you had said that... I could care less..... thats not a trollish statement.

You said... Europeans with white skin that support our movement are FAKING their support... and we need to stop pretending they support us.... like we are a bunch of idiots for welcoming the support of the righteous Europeans.

Thats what every troll says.

Tag-MehirTzedek · « **Reply #12 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:56:40 PM »

Quote from: muman613 on November 29, 2012, 08:28:57 PM

Essau Hates Jacob, this is what my Rabbi told me when I spoke with him the other night. It is a fact of Jewish existence.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2665/jewish/Why-Does-Esau-Hate-Jacob.htm

http://www.aish.com/tp/i/wbr/48923487.html

http://www.torah.org/features/secondlook/antisem.html

This is not true 100%. That incident was for that specific time and does not apply to all gentiles even descendants of Esav. Everyone has free choice and they should be judged by their actions. Good or otherwise.

AsheDina · « **Reply #13 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:58:36 PM »

Quote from: EveryJewA44 on November 29, 2012, 08:16:33 PM

Dumbsh*t... You can ask my rabbi if I am a troll.. I've put my share of time defending the Jewish race... Most Europeans hate Jews, regardless of color. It is just that many Jewish people think white EUropeans are the friends of the Jews.

Its the fact that most Europeans hate Jews.. Get your head out of your [censored]..

BTW, are you Jewish or a goy? I like to know if you know what life is like being a Jew.

I know what you are saying to the max.
Nobody likes us 'evil' Jews.

So, here comes the judgement of HaShem.
BH

muman613 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:58:54 PM »

This is getting stupid...

I think that what Everyjewa44 said was said with a good intention.

He is not aware of the make-up the JTF membership. I too did not realize this when I first joined four years ago. It took me some time (and even lately I still get flack for saying things which are not communicated clearly) to make sure my posts do not offend JTF members.

I respect all involved in this issue. I understand the sentiment 'Essau hates Jacob' and yet I also recognize that righteous gentiles can and should be interested in making sure Israel is safe and secure.

We must stand together because too many times we are sniping between each other.

Please try to withhold judgment and name-calling as it does not increase good-will among members.

muman613 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 29, 2012, 08:59:59 PM »

Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on November 29, 2012, 08:56:40 PM

This is not true 100%. That incident was for that specific time and does not apply to all gentiles even descendants of Esav. Everyone has free choice and they should be judged by their actions. Good or otherwise.

This is a law according to the Talmud. Sure there are exceptions, but the maxim 'Essau Hates Jacob' is still true.

Every Jew AK47 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:00:13 PM »

Quote from: briann on November 29, 2012, 08:49:54 PM

No, this is not at all what you said.. your comment was meant to divide our movement. Its very obvious. You told us we need to: stop pretending we actually have friends among those in Europe with white skin

You didnt say... many Europeans with white skin hate Jews...... If you had said that... I could care less..... thats not a trollish statement.

You said... Europeans with white skin that support our movement are FAKING their support... and we need to stop pretending they support us.... like we are a bunch of idiots for welcoming the support of the righteous Europeans.

Thats what every troll says.

I'm not going to get in this spit for spat with you.. I got better things to do. Calling a devoted Jewish Kahanist who is victim of anti-Semitism and who had many of his family massacred in the Holocaust a troll, I think is very lowly and cheap on a Kahanist Jewish site.

You obviously have taken what I said out of context or maybe I didn't phrase it properly..

Here is what I meant to say:
A majority of the people in Europe, white, black and Arab HATE Us Jews

There are you happy now?

You really are making juvenile statements that make no sense. I never said Europeans with white skin are faking support for the Jews.. Where did I say that?? I said that European nations "as a whole" pretend to be Israel's friends and they are really our enemies.. They always come to Israel, saying they have the best intentions, that they support the Jews and feel so bad for our suffering. In reality they want to exterminate us and give away our land to the Arabs.. You are so full of crap. You just want to be right..

I got a personal message from one of the mods that has influenced to not engage with you anymore on the issue with people like you. I can see this is a website that caters more to the non-Jewish crowd who cannot understand Jewish sensitivities. On any JDL forum, you would have been reprimanded quickly for your attacks.. But I guess I got to put up with close-minded and ignorant people like you for the time being.

I'm bowing out of this discussion anymore..

Sad, this thread had to get hijacked like this.. I am very upset about the whole UN ordeal, but know that it is inevitable.. Maybe, somebody can contribute and put the thread back on track.

muman613 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:02:33 PM »

http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/durbandejavu.html

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The U.N. has long embodied a particularly wild and blatant manifestation of what the Midrash calls a "law" of nature: "Esau hates Jacob." The world's outlaw-nations are unprepared to grant us any peace, even after they witnessed a third of our people utterly destroyed. Behind the United Nations ' austere façade lies a veritable jungle, crawling with well-dressed, diplomatically correct savages.

http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/174,2445/Is-there-any-way-to-explain-anti-Semitism.html

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It really seems that anti-Semitism defies any logic or rationale.

Our sages tell us that (Sifri, Behaloscha 9:10), "It is a known rule, Esau hates Jacob." Similarly we are told (Talmud, Tractate Shabbat 89a), "Why was [the mountain] called Sinai? Because from there hatred [in Hebrew, the word for hatred is "sinah"] spread to the nations of the world."

In other words, it is part of G-d's master-plan for us to be hated by the rest of the world. The adversity is what keeps us unique, separate and focused on our mission. As Balaam said (Numbers 23:9) - when he was blessing us - "Behold it is a nation that will dwell in solitude and not be reckoned among the nations.”

Ephraim Ben Noach · « **Reply #18 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:03:24 PM »

@everyJew! F u! I don't want you banned, but I have been watching you, but I've been too busy to get a feel for you.

My ancestors have been slaughtered and burned at the stake for 100's of years for religious freedom!

I will die with the Jews, and I'm not a computer nerd so, shut the f#@k up!

AsheDina · « **Reply #19 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:04:40 PM »

Nobody really likes the Jews.

Except the few nice folks here that are non-Jews. I know this first hand. Many are friends of mine.

I dont care if everyone hates the Jewish people.
My husband is a Jew, I am a Jew-Goy'l and we will kill anyone that TRIES to hurt us no matter WHERE we live.

I am not in a popularity contest.

ANYWAY:
EU recognizing this pali bs?
Look, whoever curses the Jews will be cursed....Think on this EU:
The curse that Israel suffers with; Leftism and Muslim-maniac-ism will become YOUR curse ten fold.

I look forward to it with infinite delight.
Good riddance EU

briann · « **Reply #20 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:09:13 PM »

Quote from: EveryJewA44 on November 29, 2012, 08:16:33 PM

BTW, are you Jewish or a goy? I like to know if you know what life is like being a Jew.

I'm American Jew... my family is from a Russia/Ukraine.... yes... I know all about the horrible pogroms, jew-hatred they had to endure... but I also know enough to tell if someone's support of Israel and our movement is genuine or not...

By you insulting the genuinity of our euro members who you hardly even know... you don't belong on this forum.

Why dont you join the... I hate all Europeans, Asians... and nearly all Americans group.

AsheDina · « **Reply #21 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:09:46 PM »

Quote from: Ephraim on November 29, 2012, 09:03:24 PM

@everyJew! F u! I don't want you banned, but I have been watching you, but I've been too busy to get a feel for you.

My ancestors have been slaughtered and burned at the stake for 100's of years for religious freedom!

I will die with the Jews, and I'm not a computer nerd so, shut the f#@k up!

Ephraim:

Come on already.
He is obviously upset.
AN ENEMY made the enemy of Israel 'legit.'

This is VERY upsetting. VERY upsetting to spiritual; Jewish people.
Truly very agonizing.
Have compassion.

Anyhoooo, I am over n out.
Tired.

briann · « **Reply #22 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:16:09 PM »

Quote from: Ephraim on November 29, 2012, 09:03:24 PM

@everyJew! F u! I don't want you banned, but I have been watching you, but I've been too busy to get a feel for you.

My ancestors have been slaughtered and burned at the stake for 100's of years for religious freedom!

I will die with the Jews, and I'm not a computer nerd so, shut the f#@k up!

Yeahh...... I have to admit... I have been slacking off in the troll-spotting department.... but I am very happy with influx of new members (yourself included) and almost all have been great.

But Im sorry... Jews who with so much hatred that they can't even accept the fact that our movement has euro gentiles who are sincere DO NOT BELONG HERE!!! or they need to take a time out for a few weeks. Members like this do FAR more damage than you might think.

Tag-MehirTzedek · « **Reply #23 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:19:04 PM »

Quote from: muman613 on November 29, 2012, 08:59:59 PM

This is a law according to the Talmud. Sure there are exceptions, but the maxim 'Essau Hates Jacob' is still true.

Listen from 6:40 and onward.

Every Jew AK47 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 29, 2012, 09:19:51 PM »

Quote from: Ephraim on November 29, 2012, 09:03:24 PM

@everyJew! F u! I don't want you banned, but I have been watching you, but I've been too busy to get a feel for you.

My ancestors have been slaughtered and burned at the stake for 100's of years for religious freedom!

I will die with the Jews, and I'm not a computer nerd so, shut the f#@k up!

Kisss my [censored] you piece of sh*t.. What kind of Jewish person would insult his own brother?? Oh wait, you are not Jewish..

Wow, another sh*t talker behind the computer screen.. I'm not afraid of you.. Believe me.. You will die with the Jews?? I am a Jew and all you have done is insult me and my race.

Briann, I never said anything against Euro gentile members here.. You are just trying to start sh*t.. Go read my original post.. I was talking about that the white European continent, in general, hates the Jewish race. You probably forgot the fact that they tried to exterminate us.. You probably don't realy care.. You just like to hear yourself talk.

Efriam (my grandfathers name, sad you had to adopt it) + Briann = Thread Hijacking Trolls