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ftf:
The last guy I argued with gave up saying that he was too busy after about 20 A4 pages worth of debate in which he had not disproved any of my points.

Abdullah:
First I will say that ftf is a Good debator.
I will also say that I too am busy but will try to make time to post fairy regularly. I'm not makeing it up I'm getting married insha'Allah but will make as much time as possible.

That is not the meaning of the Verse at all. It means you can have intercourse with her in whichever position you please (not just from the front). It dosen't mean whenever you want. This verse is not about "rape' but about lawful sexual intercourse, rape is not allowed contrary to the bible and torah.
Peace

ftf:
Just look at the beginning Surah 2  Ayat 223:
"Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when" followed later by the words "you like"

This seams to be quite blunt, if it doesn't mean it is alright for the amn to have sex wth his wife whenever he wants without his wifes permissions, it is worded in a way that suggests that it means that, surely a book that came from G-d wuld not be so easy to misunderstand in such a radical way. Therefore, either the Quran is not from G-d, or, the Quran says it's alright for men to rape their wives in which case if it is from G-d I would rather goto hell than follow G-d.

If there is any hole in my logic, please tell me.

Also, you said the bible allows rape, please tell me where you're getting this from, if you really can find such a verse which isn't a blatant misinterpretation, I will renounce my religion.

Abdullah:
Do you regard Women and children as plunder?
 (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

 

     As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.  But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

 

Would God's book approve of murder, rape, and slavery?

ftf:
Ah, the very common misunderstanding, yes that verse is saying take the women and children, it does not say mistreat them at all, as sex outside of marriage is strictly forbidden by the ten commandments amoung other things, if one was going to rape  one of those women one would first have to marry them, if you skip on a couple off shapters you will see a huge list of things that must be done if you wish to marry a cpative, by the nature of this list it seams obvious that the intention is to disuade any such event. (the list starts in chapter 21 verse 10)

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