A Topic that went badly wrong (formerly called a reminder of the forum rules)

[mosquewatch]

I have an opinion on the "camp" issue. It may be highly offensive too some Jews on this forum, so I will hold off on my opinoin unless the Mods grant me permission to post before hand.

[ftf]

I have an opinion on the "camp" issue. It may be highly offensive too some Jews on this forum, so I will hold off on my opinoin unless the Mods grant me permission to post before hand.

As it was me that suggested the camps idea, could you pm me your opinion?

[Cyrizian]

Ultimately, we all want the same thing... but we just have different methods. I don't have the stomach for the mass slaughter of a billion people. I'm sure we can find a more creative, practical and efficient method of destroying islam.

[mosquewatch]

It's because you DON'T HAVE THE STOMACH TOO WIN THE WAR THAT IS AGAINST US, IS WHY YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

[Lubab]

When will we realize. The problem is not the Muslims. The problem is the Jews.

We are the ones who have lied to them and told them that the land of Israel does not really belong to us.

We created suicide bombers when we gave them the Oslo accords.

If we didn't keep offering them the hope of destroying us, they would lose their morale and give up.

The Midrash says that the reason gentiles hate the Jews is because we've been hiding the truth from them for so long.

When the Jewish problem is resolved, I think you will see a dramatic change in the whole geopolitical situation. I think the Arab and Muslim problems would start to dissipate as a matter of course.

Everything that goes on in the world in some way results from how the Jews behave. In the era of the Temple we saw this clearly.

When the Jews did what G-d wanted, there was rain, plenty, peace and all the rest of it.

Of course the terrorists must be killed, but not because we enjoy it, but because G-d commands it. When we do that, you'll see a lot fewer terrorists automatically.

I know this is not typical JTF speak, but this I believe is the Torah view on the situation.

 

[Muck DeFuslims]

Then I must ask Ze'ev, how does one distinguish between the two kinds of muslims. Or maybe you don't even try, instead you kill indiscriminately because its just too naive and absurd to spend time trying to save muslim's souls. Why? Because thats the easy way out. You just couldn't be bothered to try and show them the Koran is full of lies. You tell yourself that they will never listen so whats the point? Lets just kill them all!


Do you realize what you sound like?

Look in the mirror. You might be surprised at what you see...

UH OH.

Here we go again with another one of Cyrizian's patented 'You're just as bad as the moooozies' comments.

What will Ze'ev see when he looks in the mirror, Cyrizian ?
A Nazi ?
Someone just as evil as the mooooozies ?

You just can't help yourself, can you ?

You insist on drawing a moral equivalency that doesn't exist in an objective reality.

I guess unless Ze'ev makes an effort to save a moooozies soul he's an indiscriminant killer.

"Ultimately, we all want the same thing... but we just have different methods. I don't have the stomach for the mass slaughter of a billion people. I'm sure we can find a more creative, practical and efficient method of destroying islam."

Can anyone in his right mind imagine fighting a war and winning with Cyrizian in charge ??

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General Cyrizian: "Private Jabotinsky, you're being brought up on charges of indiscriminantly killing Muslims !"

Private Jabotinsky: "But General, we have intelligence proving they were planning a major attack and they were armed to the teeth. "

General Cyrizian: "That might be true, but did you try to save their souls before you killed them ?"

Private Jabotinsky: "No sir, I didn't. There wasn't time and there's simply no sure or safe way to do that, sir. "

General Cyrizian: "That's immaterial, Private. You failed to act creatively, efficiently or use practical measures when facing the enemy. You're guilty of killing indiscriminantly. You made no effort to save their souls and must face the consequences."
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Tell you what, Cyrizian.

Let's put you in charge of saving moooozie souls.

You can come up with some means of identifying MINOs that might be able to be 'saved'.

Once you're satisfied that every possible moooozie that can be saved, has been saved, we'll proceed with fighting this war with the intent of winning. Of course, winning this war will mean maximizing moooozie casualties and minimizing our own.

But until you're satisfied we won't kill a single mooozie.

Wouldn't want to be accused of 'being just as bad as they are' or of 'indiscriminant killing', would we ?

We won't make a move without your specific approval detailing exactly which moooozies can be 'discriminantly' killed with your blessings.

So I suggest you get busy deciding which mooozies can be saved and how you're going to save them.

We'll all be waiting to hear from you.

I'm just afraid we'll be waiting for another 1400 years of Islamic barbarism.

[mosquewatch]

What Cyrizian is basically saying is that the Jews are just as bad as the neck cutting muslims. And it's the Jews fault.  Wonderful too have such great people on this forum. I guess it's always the Jew's fault. Those evil Jews, controlling the world, the teleivision, the movies. NAZIS MAKE ME SICK.

I'M DONE WITH TROLLS.

[Lubab]

Then I must ask Ze'ev, how does one distinguish between the two kinds of muslims. Or maybe you don't even try, instead you kill indiscriminately because its just too naive and absurd to spend time trying to save muslim's souls. Why? Because thats the easy way out. You just couldn't be bothered to try and show them the Koran is full of lies. You tell yourself that they will never listen so whats the point? Lets just kill them all!


Do you realize what you sound like?

Look in the mirror. You might be surprised at what you see...

UH OH.

Here we go again with another one of Cyrizian's patented 'You're just as bad as the moooozies' comments.

What will Ze'ev see when he looks in the mirror, Cyrizian ?
A Nazi ?
Someone just as evil as the mooooozies ?

You just can't help yourself, can you ?

You insist on drawing a moral equivalency that doesn't exist in an objective reality.

I guess unless Ze'ev makes an effort to save a moooozies soul he's an indiscriminant killer.

"Ultimately, we all want the same thing... but we just have different methods. I don't have the stomach for the mass slaughter of a billion people. I'm sure we can find a more creative, practical and efficient method of destroying islam."

Can anyone in his right mind imagine fighting a war and winning with Cyrizian in charge ??

=================================================
General Cyrizian: "Private Jabotinsky, you're being brought up on charges of indiscriminantly killing Muslims !"

Private Jabotinsky: "But General, we have intelligence proving they were planning a major attack and they were armed to the teeth. "

General Cyrizian: "That might be true, but did you try to save their souls before you killed them ?"

Private Jabotinsky: "No sir, I didn't. There wasn't time and there's simply no sure or safe way to do that, sir. "

General Cyrizian: "That's immaterial, Private. You failed to act creatively, efficiently or use practical measures when facing the enemy. You're guilty of killing indiscriminantly. You made no effort to save their souls and must face the consequences."
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Tell you what, Cyrizian.

Let's put you in charge of saving moooozie souls.

You can come up with some means of identifying MINOs that might be able to be 'saved'.

Once you're satisfied that every possible moooozie that can be saved, has been saved, we'll proceed with fighting this war with the intent of winning. Of course, winning this war will mean maximizing moooozie casualties and minimizing our own.

But until you're satisfied we won't kill a single mooozie.

Wouldn't want to be accused of 'being just as bad as they are' or of 'indiscriminant killing', would we ?

We won't make a move without your specific approval detailing exactly which moooozies can be 'discriminantly' killed with your blessings.

So I suggest you get busy deciding which mooozies can be saved and how you're going to save them.

We'll all be waiting to hear from you.

I'm just afraid we'll be waiting for another 1400 years of Islamic barbarism.

Now this is a great post.

[Cyrizian]

Muck and mosquewatch,

Maybe we should just nuke the whole middle east and kill every single moozie Jew christian or whatever that possibly gets in the way of what we want! I want you two to know that I would gladly put a bullet in your brains if you EVER tried to do such a thing! Mindless killing is not what we are about and I would expect better from you... NO! G-d EXPECTS BETTER OF YOU!

If you had intellegence that said that they were planning a major attack and were armed to the teeth, than I would be the first one to volunteer! But I will not have you preach on this forum that we should Kill all Moozies! 

you are hurting this forum and I know the Mods would not appreciate it! I can see many people coming on this forum and reading your posts and claim that we are a "racist organization that is hell bent on the mass murder of Muslims everywhere." I wonder how that would look to all the potential members we might gain.

Cyrizian

[mosquewatch]

GO SAVE THIS SOUL, YOU CAN'T HE'S DEAD , AND THANK G-D. If I am a problem with this forum the Mods will bounce me, understand this, I am not. I have spoken with some on the phone. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM ON THIS FORUM. NOT I.

[mosquewatch]

And further more you say we should have mercy too our enemies like this piece of garbage.  I hope he is dead, if not, one day he will be . Sod your "mercy too the enemy garbage".

[Cyrizian]

People like you need to be put down just as badly as the Islamonazis. Take your mass murder supporting hate speach somewhere else!

Cyrizian

[mosquewatch]

Finally the truth comes out.

[Cyrizian]

Its always been there, too bad you can't see past your own ego to find it...

[mosquewatch]

People like you need to be put down just as badly as the Islamonazis. Take your mass murder supporting hate speach somewhere else!

Cyrizian

So I should be "Put down", what makes you better than me ?

[mosquewatch]

And how are you going too
"put me down" ?  I thought you were against murder of those that disagree with you ?

[Cyrizian]

Well for one thing, I don't support the mass extermination of an entire group of people...

That must count for something.

[mosquewatch]

you evidently approve of "putting me down" explain this too the forum.

[Cyrizian]

Know this, I would not enjoy killing you, but I would do whatever it took to stop you from an act that would make hitler proud!

[mosquewatch]

Then I take it you are in favor of killing me ?

[mosquewatch]

It's a yes or no question, do you want me dead or not ?

[mosquewatch]

Answer ?

[mosquewatch]

Know this, I would not enjoy killing you, but I would do whatever it took to stop you from an act that would make hitler proud!

Death threat ?

[Lubab]

Know this, I would not enjoy killing you, but I would do whatever it took to stop you from an act that would make hitler proud!

Alright Cyrizian. This is about all I can take of this. Thread is locked and if I hear any more talk about killing great members of our forum consider yourself gone.

[Shlomo]

This is COMPLETELY unacceptable!

and on a thread specifying the rules... I am in shock.