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Inter-racial sex: what is your opinion?
Carlyle:
--- Quote from: jeffguy on October 13, 2006, 11:02:53 AM ---I have to agree... I've studied it and never have I ever seen anything about that in the Talmud either. Do you have authentic sources to back up your claim or can you tell us how that works out? I am open to it if you really can show that's what it means.
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I will quote Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 108b: "Our Rabbis taught: Three copulated in the ark, and they were all punished — the dog, the raven, and Ham. The dog was doomed to be tied, the raven expectorates [his seed into his mate's mouth]. and Ham was smitten in his skin."
Already at the 6th century AD the passage was interpreted so that the sons of Ham were marked by black skin.
Rabbi Dr. M.J. Raphall interpreted the passage thus: "Noah did not bestow any blessing on his son Ham, but uttered a bitter curse against his descendants, and to this day it remains a fact which cannot be gainsaid that in his own native home, and generally throughout the world, the unfortunate negro is indeed the meanest of slaves. Much has been said respecting the inferiority of his intellectual powers, and that no man of his race has ever inscribed his name on the Pantheon of human excellence, either mental or moral."
wonderfulgoy:
White men are the cursed race.
Carlyle:
--- Quote from: Get thee hence Satan on October 14, 2006, 09:51:20 PM ---White men are the cursed race.
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Aren't you a White man, too?
wonderfulgoy:
--- Quote from: Carlyle on October 14, 2006, 11:29:46 PM ---
Aren't you a White man, too?
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This is true; as was Maimonides, who wrote the book linking black skin with cursedness.
But I am sure all of you who are more knowledgeable than me can look back at history and see that the race which has suffered greatest is not the black race. That many blacks did not evolve proper societies, languishing in jungles and deserts until invaded by Muslims and Europeans, is not a sign of cursedness per se. You tell me that the fact that blacks were taken as slaves makes them the servantile race, but then I remember that Muslims used to take millions of white, European slaves. The Egyptians took the Hebrews as slaves. The ancient Greeks and the Romans took blonde barbarian Germans for slaves, among others.
Even the Mongols captured and enslaved Nordic populations, to produce the Mongolized Eastern branches of the white race we see today.
And of course, all of us witness the abominations going on in our European and American societies today.
It seems to me that the white race is like a giant source of vanilla ice-cream which is continually being 'flavoured' and broken up into more and more diverse units throughout history. In this manner, the white race provides the source of much human diversification, and therefore the cause of much human strife in the form of tribalism. Slavs don't like Anglos, for example. Anglos never used to like Irish. Lots of people don't like Celts.
This does not seem like a masterful position to me. It seems to me as if whites are a very unfortunate people who can never find inner peace nor prevent themselves from being invaded.
davkakach:
--- Quote ---Even the Mongols captured and enslaved Nordic populations, to produce the Mongolized Eastern branches of the white race we see today.
And of course, all of us witness the abominations going on in our European and American societies today.
It seems to me that the white race is like a giant source of vanilla ice-cream which is continually being 'flavoured' and broken up into more and more diverse units throughout history. In this manner, the white race provides the source of much human diversification, and therefore the cause of much human strife in the form of tribalism. Slavs don't like Anglos, for example. Anglos never used to like Irish. Lots of people don't like Celts.
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Nice.
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