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Megan Phelps-Roper

'You're just a human being, my dear, sweet child.'

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February 6, 2013
Turning Points
Head Full of Doubt / Road Full of Promise

“There's no fresh start in today's world. Any twelve-year-old with a cell phone could find out what you did. Everything we do is collated and quantified. Everything sticks.”

Don’t act surprised that I’m quoting Batman. At WBC, reciting lines from pop culture is par for the course. And why not? The sentiments they express are readily identifiable by the masses – and shifting their meaning is as easy as giving them new context. So put Selina Kyle’s words in a different framework:

In a city in a state in the center of a country lives a group of people who believe they are the center of the universe; they know Right and Wrong, and they are Right. They work hard and go to school and get married and have kids who they take to church and teach that continually protesting the lives, deaths, and daily activities of The World is the only genuine statement of compassion that a God-loving human can sincerely make. As parents, they are attentive and engaged, and the children learn their lessons well.

This is my framework.

Until very recently, this is what I lived, breathed, studied, believed, preached – loudly, daily, and for nearly 27 years.

I never thought it would change. I never wanted it to.

Then suddenly: it did.

And I left.

Where do you go from there?

I don't know, exactly. My sister Grace is with me, though. We’re trying to figure it out together.

There are some things we do know.

We know that we’ve done and said things that hurt people. Inflicting pain on others wasn’t the goal, but it was one of the outcomes. We wish it weren’t so, and regret that hurt.

We know that we dearly love our family. They now consider us betrayers, and we are cut off from their lives, but we know they are well-intentioned. We will never not love them.

We know that we can’t undo our whole lives. We can’t even say we’d want to if we could; we are who we are because of all the experiences that brought us to this point. What we can do is try to find a better way to live from here on. That’s our focus.

Up until now, our names have been synonymous with “God Hates Fags.” Any twelve-year-old with a cell phone could find out what we did. We hope Ms. Kyle was right about the other part, too, though – that everything sticks – and that the changes we make in our lives will speak for themselves.

Megan and Grace

Some questions are answered here.             https://medium.com/reporters-notebook/d63ecca43e35 



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Her departure has hurt them already—she knew it would—yet there was no way she could stay. “My doubts started with a conversation I had with David Abitbol,” she says. Megan met David, an Israeli web developer who’s part of the team behind the blog Jewlicious, on Twitter. “I would ask him questions about Judaism, and he would ask me questions about church doctrine. One day, he asked a specific question about one of our signs—‘Death Penalty for Fags’—and I was arguing for the church’s position, that it was a Levitical punishment and as completely appropriate now as it was then. He said, ‘But Jesus said’—and I thought it was funny he was quoting Jesus—‘Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.’ And then he connected it to another member of the church who had done something that, according to the Tanach, was also punishable by death. I realized that if the death penalty was instituted for any sin, you completely cut off the opportunity to repent. And that’s what Jesus was talking about.”
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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Good on them for leaving this satanic inbred cult that is probably supported by the Saudis.

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I am not familiar with that particular church, in fact I know nothing about them. Are they odd like Lutherans?

They are first rate lunatics.  They protest outside of deceased soldier's funerals like hooligans berating family members with ugly chants.  They used to berate the parents of gay men who died of AIDS.  They stand outside of synagogues and hold pornographically vile sins.  They are Amalek.  I read this article and I SUPPOSE one should have pity for this creature, but she has a lot, and I mean a lot to make up for.  I have to say, watching her, I never felt she nor her sister were particularly evil unto themselves, but they worshiped evil and did their very best to propagate it.

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WBC are nazis. They teach that all Jews are going to hell except for about 100,000 (who must be TULIP Christians, not Judaists) and that the holy land is no longer Jewish land and that the Jews stole it. They teach their kids that a Jew is little different than a sodomite, which sounds like a line right out of Goebbels. According to them, today's Christianity is evil and compromised. The opposite is true of course. Christianity has never been more righteous than today. American Christianity is especially holy because it gives God's earthly people (the Jews) the recognition they deserve. No one in Christian history has ever had as profound an understanding of God's word as today's American evangelical Christian ministers  such as John Hagee. The surname Hagee originated in Germany as an altered form of the name Hage. Adding the extra letter preserves the second syllable of the word, a short "e" sound. He makes me proud to be a German-descended American Christian. German-Americans who deserve honorable mention include Michelle Bachman and Glenn Beck. German Americans (German: Deutschamerikaner) comprise about 50 million people, making them the largest ancestry group ahead of Irish Americans, African Americans and English Americans. They comprise about 1/3 of the German diaspora all over the world.
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Good on them for leaving this satanic inbred cult that is probably supported by the Saudis.

Agreed. What a disgrace to even call this a "church"?

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There may be a muslamic hand in this.
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