I always felt jews were a bit more intelligent and creative than gentiles. But the way they are handling themselves in the "piss process" with the arabs and the US makes me think otherwise. At the very minimum, jews should be demanding tough concessions from the arabs, such as some degree of expulsion of the "palpisstinians" from the Israeli land they are illegally occupying. But, no, the debate is always about unilateral Israeli concessions and a wrongful occupation of arab land. This is more of a gang rape than a piss process; always at Israel's expense. And most jews think nothing of it; or they think it's just fine. Are they dumb?