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Israel Gov't Approves Bill Limiting Ministers to 19
« on: May 06, 2013, 08:39:20 AM »
This is what Chaim was taking abut a few weeks back, this will make it harder for JTF to get into the Knesset.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/167769
Governance Law would raise minimum threshold for entering Knesset to 4%, pushing out small parties.
The Ministerial Committee for Legislation approved Monday the so-called "Governance Bill" proposed by MK David Rotem (Yisrael Beytenu), and placed in on a fast track for legislation.

The bill includes several changes in basic laws that would affect the balance between the government and Knesset, and reduce the frequency of no-confidence votes.

One change that the bill includes is the permanent reduction of governments to 19 ministers, including the Prime Minister, and four deputy ministers.

In addition, no-confidence proposals will only be submitted with the signatures of 61 or more MKs, who will also have to agree upon a candidate to form an alternative government. The candidate will receive 21 days to form an alternative government. If he fails, the presiding government will continue in power.

The bill grants the prime minister power to dissolve the Knesset without the agreement of the President of Israel. Only the Knesset will have the power to block its dissolution.

In addition, the minimum threshold for a party to enter the Knesset will be raised from two to four percent of the popular vote. A party that fails to cross the threshold will not receive any funding from state coffers.

This means that the smallest parties in the Knesset will have at least five seats, or possibly four. At present, it is possible for a party to enter the Knesset with just two seats.
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Re: Israel Gov't Approves Bill Limiting Ministers to 19
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2013, 10:33:13 AM »
The limit of the ministers count is the only section in this law that is positive.

The raising of the minimum threshold for elections to the Knesset is going to make it much harder for small parties to be represented. That's obviously bad for Hayamin.

Another major negative is the way they now want a no confident vote to get absolute majority and name an alternative candidate  to topple the prime minister. It means illegitimate governments that lost the majority support in the Knesset as well as any public credibility could still survive and execute retreats and betrayals. It would also make it very likely that Charedi traitorous parties would support "from outside" such cabinets by abstaining in no confident votes in exchange for $$$.

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Re: Israel Gov't Approves Bill Limiting Ministers to 19
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2013, 11:02:34 AM »
The limit of the ministers count is the only section in this law that is positive.

The raising of the minimum threshold for elections to the Knesset is going to make it much harder for small parties to be represented. That's obviously bad for Hayamin.

Another major negative is the way they now want a no confident vote to get absolute majority and name an alternative candidate  to topple the prime minister. It means illegitimate governments that lost the majority support in the Knesset as well as any public credibility could still survive and execute retreats and betrayals. It would also make it very likely that Charedi traitorous parties would support "from outside" such cabinets by abstaining in no confident votes in exchange for $$$.


How many Ministers are there currently  ( compared to the 19 maximum in the future  ) ?
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Re: Israel Gov't Approves Bill Limiting Ministers to 19
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2013, 11:06:21 AM »
Actually there is upside to this that it will make it harder for the Arab parties to get in.

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Re: Israel Gov't Approves Bill Limiting Ministers to 19
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2013, 11:25:40 AM »

How many Ministers are there currently  ( compared to the 19 maximum in the future  ) ?
22 ministers + 8 vice ministers. The previous cabinet had initially a record 30 ministers and 9 vice ministers. And to run an efficient cabinet 12 ministers and 0 vice minsters are more then enough.

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Re: Israel Gov't Approves Bill Limiting Ministers to 19
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2013, 12:37:54 PM »
It could be a blessing in disguise for Hayamin.  Sure, as a party by itself it will be really difficult.  However, with cooperation with other groups (that won't compromise Haymin's principles) will create a stronger alliance and quicken a mass movement.  Hopefully there are such groups out there.
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Re: Israel Gov't Approves Bill Limiting Ministers to 19
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2013, 01:25:43 PM »
I have a really hard time understanding how the government structure is done in Israel...how the hell is Haneen Zoabi still in there? What power does a normal non-minister knesset member have? and aren't there like 100 of them?

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Re: Israel Gov't Approves Bill Limiting Ministers to 19
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2013, 01:37:02 PM »
I have a really hard time understanding how the government structure is done in Israel...how the hell is Haneen Zoabi still in there? What power does a normal non-minister knesset member have? and aren't there like 100 of them?
Israel has a parliamentary system similar to the UK, although the elections are proportional and are not divided into voting districts. In the Israeli system it is almost impossible to pass laws and bills from the opposition. So, in terms of legislating or ruling power, the Arab scum that infest the house have no power. But in some cases they can tip the balance of power between parliamentary blocks, something which had happened for example when Yitzhak Rabin was preim minister and almost happened last elections.