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Is a conversion appropriate in this circumstance?
Israel Chai:
--- Quote from: rafeli18 on July 15, 2013, 11:30:03 PM ---
Agreed, it's not a trivial decision to make but there's that abstract thing i get from learning about judaism . The sense of belonging that doesn't bide for me with other religions.Say listening to shloime gertner brings out emotions that were seldom expressed by me before but now are open.The names for g-d; Hashem , hashem, adoni seem more powerful than most other words. I'm starting to become more of a positive person though I of course want to think this through.Another user here converted in his mid 30's i believe .I know this may sound stupid but would say conservative judaism be more appropriate ?
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Reform and conservative aren't actually Judaism. If you want to not follow the bible and call yourself Jewish, you don't need them, and the shallow phony spirituality makes you gag after a while. If you want Judaism, try it, but don't get a pro-Fraudestinian lesbian woman rabbi to explain you how mitzvahs means G-d loves you and whats you to do the opposite of what he says. It's one thing to not be living righteously, it's worse to call unrighteousness righteous, and then do something wrong and get convinced that it's good.
rafeli18:
--- Quote from: LKZ on July 15, 2013, 11:35:50 PM ---Reform and conservative aren't actually Judaism. If you want to not follow the bible and call yourself Jewish, you don't need them, and the shallow phony spirituality makes you gag after a while. If you want Judaism, try it, but don't get a pro-Fraudestinian lesbian woman rabbi to explain you how mitzvahs means G-d loves you and whats you to do the opposite of what he says. It's one thing to not be living righteously, it's worse to call unrighteousness righteous, and then do something wrong and get convinced that it's good.
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Agreed, a lot of religious leaders are hypocritical apart from muslims of course. A lot of jewish writers seem to place them on equal setting though.Could i ask you a favour?
Israel Chai:
--- Quote from: rafeli18 on July 15, 2013, 11:40:38 PM ---Agreed, a lot of religious leaders are hypocritical apart from muslims of course. A lot of jewish writers seem to place them on equal setting though.Could i ask you a favour?
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You've got to know the source. There are many different opinions on everything, but the opinion "is my religion fake" means you really shouldn't be calling yourself part of that religion.
What would you like?
rafeli18:
--- Quote from: LKZ on July 15, 2013, 11:52:32 PM ---You've got to know the source. There are many different opinions on everything, but the opinion "is my religion fake" means you really shouldn't be calling yourself part of that religion.
What would you like?
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Indeed, doubting the authenticity of your religion poses serious problems.
Could you recommend any prayers or materials that might be useful in helping me come to terms with myself and my relationship with G-d?
Israel Chai:
--- Quote from: rafeli18 on July 15, 2013, 11:58:29 PM ---Indeed, doubting the authenticity of your religion poses serious problems.
Could you recommend any prayers or materials that might be useful in helping me come to terms with myself and my relationship with G-d?
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Rabbi Kahane books and vids did it for me. I follow Mumans weekly parasha postings here... ask him. He's like my enacting rabbi. Watch the yoke of heaven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oguHBnL5UYc&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLF02B180A3309D74A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-HjYbbIpDM&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLF02B180A3309D74A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOvR5sgy7Z8&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLF02B180A3309D74A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAAg7EDW9Co&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLF02B180A3309D74A
After, try reading Torah, and then commentaries on any of the 70+ ways it can be understood. It's said that it's better to give up Judaism and keep G-d than be Jewish and give up his laws, because through the laws, you find your way back to G-d. A connection with G-d is an indescribably powerful state of being, and you can find out about G-d in one place in particular. The chapter of Esther deals with coverts too, so that is also an interesting place to start, considering your situation.
I need more detail on what you mean by coming to terms with yourself, but here's the bottom line: if you become Jewish, the majority of the world will hate you without having met you, and you will have many new obligations, which not keeping as a Jew is a sin, but not in any way for you now. If you aren't already convinced, you have to ask Muman about the spirituality before you convert.
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