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Is a conversion appropriate in this circumstance?
rafeli18:
--- Quote from: muman613 on July 14, 2013, 11:09:56 PM ---Thank you Rafeli18... I appreciate it.
We are currently working towards the rebuilding of the Temple. Us (I'm sorry if I'm talking for everyone) religious Zionists believe that the current state of Israel is a step toward the final redemption as prophesied by our Prophets of the Tanach. Even though there seem to be a lot of problems with the modern state of Israel, we see them as the travails which the Talmud spoke about in the period before the coming of the Moshiach (annointed king of Israel).
This is why I believe it is important to remember these calamities which befell us because of the various things which broke the close bonds we had with our 'father in heaven'. Judaism is a faith which believes that everything was created by the ONE G-d, creator of Heaven and Earth, and there is no force which he is not the master of. Thus we can see that even the so-called bad which has occured, there is a greater story which we will finally see when we reach the world to come. We will navigate these 'bad times' in the knowledge that ultimately we will witness the 'good times' of the redemption and we are responsible for being a part of that redemptive process.
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You're very eloquent in the way you write. You're right tragedies are not entirely bad. As you say it acts as a binding factor which strengthens communities as well as being indicative of a greater good to come.
I sound this may sound naive but how do you rebuild the temple whilst the dome of the rock is on top of the original structures?
kyel:
--- Quote from: rafeli18 on July 15, 2013, 05:34:53 AM ---Do you recommend any good online translations?
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http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/63255/jewish/The-Bible-with-Rashi.htm
I think this is a good translation and it also has Hebrew text on the left side that you will be able to understand more well you learn Hebrew. There is also commentary from Rashi which you can read if something seems confusing. Honestly, I have never read this translation and am not sure if it is plagued with errors but it can't be as bad as the KJV (which I think some people may actually beleive is the original Bible). Also keep in mind that if you were to just buy a regular bible the order of the Jewish Bible and Christian Bible differ. Here is an interesting site which has several interpretations and comments on the Torah that I would recommend reading.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/The_Written_Law.html
Israel Chai:
--- Quote from: rafeli18 on July 15, 2013, 05:49:02 AM ---You're very eloquent in the way you write. You're right tragedies are not entirely bad. As you say it acts as a binding factor which strengthens communities as well as being indicative of a greater good to come.
I sound this may sound naive but how do you rebuild the temple whilst the dome of the rock is on top of the original structures?
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That abomination is on a ticker. The temple dedicated to idolatrous worship of a rock and hating non-muslims, whose golden roof was placed during the holocaust by a mudrat Nazi who wanted Nazis in Israel, is on a ticker. May the holy temple be rebuilt speedily in our days.
rafeli18:
--- Quote from: kyel on July 15, 2013, 12:56:22 PM ---
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/63255/jewish/The-Bible-with-Rashi.htm
I think this is a good translation and it also has Hebrew text on the left side that you will be able to understand more well you learn Hebrew. There is also commentary from Rashi which you can read if something seems confusing. Honestly, I have never read this translation and am not sure if it is plagued with errors but it can't be as bad as the KJV (which I think some people may actually beleive is the original Bible). Also keep in mind that if you were to just buy a regular bible the order of the Jewish Bible and Christian Bible differ. Here is an interesting site which has several interpretations and comments on the Torah that I would recommend reading.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/The_Written_Law.html
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Thanks,the KJV is indeed a corrupted version made to suit the monarch at the time so I take it with a pinch of salt but the translation on the website you listed seems good as well as jewish virtual library which I go on regularly.In your opinion what pace should I be going?
rafeli18:
--- Quote from: LKZ on July 15, 2013, 02:37:18 PM ---That abomination is on a ticker. The temple dedicated to idolatrous worship of a rock and hating non-muslims, whose golden roof was placed during the holocaust by a mudrat Nazi who wanted Nazis in Israel, is on a ticker. May the holy temple be rebuilt speedily in our days.
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Yasser Arafat's uncle I believe. The trouble is that most muslims are too stupid to see that in the koran Israel is cited as the land of the jewish people
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