RADICAL ISLAM VERSUS WESTERN CIVILIZATION

[EagleEye]

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/85542

One must not forget that it was the Western Christians who undertook to release the Islamics from the horror of their existence under the Serbs. Nor should it be ignored that while the CIVILIZED WESTERN world was engaged in researching and developing medicines to allay the numerous diseases which ravage all mankind, the Islamic Fanatics were devoting their efforts to the extinction of non-believers and infidels as the only means to propigate their faith as set forth in the Holy Koran.

Islamics must look inward to determine why the greater portion of technical advancement in the world is the result of the Western worlds reasearch and development efforts . Contributors include Christians, Jews as well as those who profess no faith whatsoever . It is the ultimat irony that the Islamic Fanatics use the Western Worlds technological developments in their continuing attraction to the faulted concept of "Jihad"

A single word which represents the ultimate "oxymoron" is "Jihad" inasmuch as there is no such an undertaking as a "holy war" in the eyes of enlightened people.

Ask any Islamic cleric to name or list all the Nobel Prize winners who adhere to Islam. He will find himself hard put to find names that can be counted on the digits of one hand. Tragically the foremost named recipient, Anwar Sadat of Egypt was brutally assassinated by members of the Islamic Brotherhood. His believed crime in their eyes, was his ongoing attempts to advocate peace between Israel and the Palestinians!!

It is tragic that the concept of "the sanctity of life" held by the Western World conflicts with the wanton and senseless taking of life extolled in the Koran and today practiced by the Islamic Fanatics.

As stated, the Muslims use American advancements to fuel their own Jihad.  They don't design weapons, like a virus taking over a white blood cell, they simply use the weapons against their own designers.

[newman]

An even bigger irony is that their hatred of the west is fueled by the arab concept of shame. Shame caused by the realisation that the religion and system of government they are told is superior is grossly infrior compared to the west. The shame caused by the realisation that ALL the immigration is FROM the islamic east TO the christian west that they claim to be inferior!

They suffer at their own hands but blame others. The evidence of their religion's failure is all about them yet they shout it's superiority to the very culture that is superior to it!

Go figure these people.

[serbian army]

As stated, the Muslims use American advancements to fuel their own Jihad.  They don't design weapons, like a virus taking over a white blood cell, they simply use the weapons against their own designers.

Do you know that the US spent 50 billon dollars to train Muslim forces in Iraq?(many of them went to fight on  Al Qaeda's side)
Do you know that former president Clinton sent 80% of US produced weapons in one year to the Turkey?
Do you know that most of our shipments of weapons to Iraq are missing?
What is there to say?
If our American government loves Muslims so much, why do not members of congress and senate go and join Al Qaeda……

[HiWarp]

An even bigger irony is that their hatred of the west is fueled by the arab concept of shame. Shame caused by the realisation that the religion and system of government they are told is superior is grossly infrior compared to the west. The shame caused by the realisation that ALL the immigration is FROM the islamic east TO the christian west that they claim to be inferior!

They suffer at their own hands but blame others. The evidence of their religion's failure is all about them yet they shout it's superiority to the very culture that is superior to it!

Go figure these people.

I can figure them.

When you have a religious and political system that is stuck in the 7th century, and all around you are others that are prospering, you have a couple of options.

1)  Abandon your flawed belief system and embrace western civilization so that your people can prosper like the rest of the world.

2)  Exterminate western civilization or assimilate it into your culture thereby taking it down to your level.

Obviously they have chosen option 2.  Once you have been exterminated or brought down to the same level as them, there is no longer any need for shame and no feelings of inferiority.  It's very much like the strategy used by communists.  They do not aspire to raise the destitute to higher levels of prosperity but instead to lower the affluent closer to the level of poverty.  In their twisted view the outcome should not be for all people to advance and prosper but, instead, for all people to be on an equal footing.  The fact that that equal footing entails having just enough to survive and depend on your leaders is not only irrelevant, but actually preferred, if you are one of the leaders.

Similar concept, except that Islam uses explosives instead of taxation, laws and regulations.

[EagleEye]

Yes training potential Muslim Extremists is stupid.  Saddam did the right thing.  I'm not going to lie, he was a great ruler, and he was right to oppress his thug people.

[cjd]

Yes training potential Muslim Extremists is stupid.  Saddam did the right thing.  I'm not going to lie, he was a great ruler, and he was right to oppress his thug people.

Some years ago after Desert Storm I remember seeing an interview of Saddam by one of the leading American interviewers. I don't recall who it was that was interviewing him however  Saddam told him that oppression was the only thing that his people understood. At the time I thought he was nuts but after seeing the animals in action the past few years I have to say that he had the correct position. As far as him being a great leader I have to disagree. Its easy to rule by oppression. In fact he was very stupid in a way and caused his own ouster and demise. The little shell game he played with Bush and the UN dragging his feet over weapons inspections was a dangerous game. He should have come clean and facilitated all inspections that is if he had nothing to hide. If he would have done that instead of stonewalling and sending mixed messages to the world community and the UN about what was there he might still be in power today. He really wasn't very bright and he payed for it with his life.

[EagleEye]

Of course Saddam was also wrong about Israel.  But I believe he was a lesser evil on that issue, than religious fundamentalists who will take over Iraq could be.