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newman:
This noachide prayer shawl was recently introduced at a noachide conference by Rabbi Tzvi Aviner. It has no tzit tzit and also differs from the Jewish type by having a rainbow trim to signify G_d's covenent with Noach.

Firstly, is this kosher? The colours seem a bit 'loud' for schull.

Secondly, as the rainbow has been hijacked by fagotts, peaceniks and anti-zionists of late, I am worried that wearing one of these in a synagogue may cause some to think I'm one of the afore mentioned undesirables. I don't want a punch in the head by a righteous Jew. Is there an alternate prayer shawl for noachides that doesn't violate halakha?

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Shlomo:
It seems a little strange but if it makes someone feel closer to Hashem, then so be it. It's only an article of clothing.

newman:

--- Quote from: jeffguy on July 29, 2007, 02:20:36 AM ---It seems a little strange but if it makes someone feel closer to Hashem, then so be it. It's only an article of clothing.

--- End quote ---
Yeah, but I don't want somebody thinking I'm a peace now, fag activist,
anti-Israel scum bag. Those people all wear rainbow kippot & such.

And I still think the colours are too loud for schull.

jdl4ever:
Personally, I don't like the idea of doing anything that makes the impression that things are being added to the 7 Noahide laws.  For this reason I don't like the term "Noahide Chossud" that the Lubovitchers use.  Stop giving the impression that you are adding anything or changing Noahidism.  The Noahides of ancient times had no prayer shawl so why are they adding this?  I don't like it.

newman:

--- Quote from: jdl4ever on July 29, 2007, 02:43:28 AM ---Personally, I don't like the idea of doing anything that makes the impression that things are being added to the 7 Noahide laws.  For this reason I don't like the term "Noahide Chossud" that the Lubovitchers use.  Stop giving the impression that you are adding anything or changing Noahidism.

--- End quote ---
It's not really an addition. Everyone covers their head in schull, for example but it's not in the seven laws, We're also allowed to take on extra laws for extra blessing as long as we're not impersonating Jews.
Marriage ceremonies and honouring parents are examples.

The sheva mitzvot are only a bare minimum, not the limit of a noachides observance.

The reason Chabad use the term Noachide Chasid is because technically, every gentile is a nochide or ben noach (son of noach).
This differentiates a pious or observant noachide from a pagan/ idolator.

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