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Banning Weed and Drugs
Tag-MehirTzedek:
Would like a Halahic discussion (and not an emotional one) about why marijuana and or (even) hard drugs should or should not be banned in society. Again I reiterate this should be a Torah discussion- legally and not emotionally.
For example imagine in a world where their are 2 countries (even part of a whole picture of other countries). 1 country a gentile country run by the 7 Misswoth Bnai Noah and that is how the courts were and are being run, the other country- Israel, a Religious country run by Torah law under Beit Din perhaps with a Melech (King) or Nasi (President) as well.
At the time their are these discoveries of Cannibus and hard drugs as well. What do we do with it, can we allow it, can we ban it, what Klalot and power (or jurisdiction if yes or no) do we have in either allowing or banning it?
1) According to the laws of Bnai Noah
a) Marijuana
b) Hard drugs
2) According to Torah law for Jews in Israel
a) Marijuana
b) Hard drugs
Please discuss.
muman613:
As I stated in an earlier discussion the only reason drugs can be considered prohibited is if they cause actual damage to the human body or mind. The Torah clearly prohibits us from doing anything which shortens our lives or dulls our senses so that we cannot function properly during davening.
Specifically the commandments concerning 'Choosing Good over Evil', 'Not making permanent markings on our bodies /Tattoos', and the story of the death of Aaron's sons (said to be due to their consuming alcohol before their service).
Hard drugs (including cocaine and heroin) are obviously detrimental to healthy functioning of the human body. I believe there is no way to consider their use supported by the Torah.
Regarding MJ I am still not sure that it causes damage, and I know it does have medicinal properties which provide comfort to a variety of ailments.
Tag-MehirTzedek:
Muman please try to address by number and letters. Also the question is not on the individual per say but by a government and what power (if any) would they have in making such a decision. It could perfectly be that the fact that it hurts the individual gives jurisdiction by a Beit Din (or other) to ban something and perhaps their were/are precedence's, but I'm also looking for substantial either proof or text showing legal precedence and that is how I tried to phrase the question. Put yourself as a Judge (for example) where these things were just discovered and you are trying to figure out about what to do with them.
Jenny:
--- Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on December 26, 2013, 04:35:37 PM ---Would like a Halahic discussion (and not an emotional one) about why marijuana and or (even) hard drugs should or should not be banned in society. Again I reiterate this should be a Torah discussion- legally and not emotionally.
For example imagine in a world where their are 2 countries (even part of a whole picture of other countries). 1 country a gentile country run by the 7 Misswoth Bnai Noah and that is how the courts were and are being run, the other country- Israel, a Religious country run by Torah law under Beit Din perhaps with a Melech (King) or Nasi (President) as well.
At the time their are these discoveries of Cannibus and hard drugs as well. What do we do with it, can we allow it, can we ban it, what Klalot and power (or jurisdiction if yes or no) do we have in either allowing or banning it?
1) According to the laws of Bnai Noah
a) Marijuana
b) Hard drugs
2) According to Torah law for Jews in Israel
a) Marijuana
b) Hard drugs
Please discuss.
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I have more of a question for you if you wouldn't mind giving me your thoughts.
Is it ok for someone to follow the Torah and smoke marijuana(for any reason), Is he/she being a good faithful Jew?
muman613:
--- Quote from: Jenny on December 26, 2013, 04:49:35 PM ---I have more of a question for you if you wouldn't mind giving me your thoughts.
Is it ok for someone to follow the Torah and smoke marijuana(for any reason), Is he/she being a good faithful Jew?
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In my opinion it is possible. As I said it is my experience that MJ is beneficial, not detrimental, to life. The scientific community has not clearly decided if it is mostly beneficial (which I believe) or hurtful...
But clearly one should not smoke or use any substance which clouds the mind during prayer. The Torah expressly forbids praying while drunk or impaired.
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