Author Topic: Need help from my fellow JTFers (Read 2329 times)

Joe Gutfeld · « **on:** January 06, 2014, 06:26:41 PM »

Hello JTFers! I'm having trouble with a Hispanic woman who lives in my co-op in NYC. This "woman" has been harassing me for years because I don't approve of her feeding the stray cats who roam in my co-op. Because I don't, she follows me around the complex and curses and threatens me on almost a daily basis. The management and the Public safety force can only do so much. This "woman" is trying to get me into a fist-fight which is not going to happen from my end. I wish that JTF can help me, but, once again there is only so much they can do as well. There there some Jewish bodygaurds who can protect me that JTF knows? I don't have much money so, can they do so pro-bono? I need help. Thanks

cjd · « **Reply #1 on:** January 06, 2014, 07:13:05 PM »

Quote from: Joe Gutfeld on January 06, 2014, 06:26:41 PM

Hello JTFers! I'm having trouble with a Hispanic woman who lives in my co-op in NYC. This "woman" has been harassing me for years because I don't approve of her feeding the stray cats who roam in my co-op. Because I don't, she follows me around the complex and curses and threatens me on almost a daily basis. The management and the Public safety force can only do so much. This "woman" is trying to get me into a fist-fight which is not going to happen from my end. I wish that JTF can help me, but, once again there is only so much they can do as well. There there some Jewish bodygaurds who can protect me that JTF knows? I don't have much money so, can they do so pro-bono? I need help. Thanks

Here we go again

You were looking for help some years back and were told that there was not much that could be done... You should really think about moving since it seems the problems there are on going... Are you sure your not making your own troubles.

angryChineseKahanist · « **Reply #2 on:** January 06, 2014, 07:16:44 PM »

Quote from: Joe Gutfeld on January 06, 2014, 06:26:41 PM

Hello JTFers! I'm having trouble with a Hispanic woman who lives in my co-op in NYC. This "woman" has been harassing me for years because I don't approve of her feeding the stray cats who roam in my co-op. Because I don't, she follows me around the complex and curses and threatens me on almost a daily basis. The management and the Public safety force can only do so much. This "woman" is trying to get me into a fist-fight which is not going to happen from my end. I wish that JTF can help me, but, once again there is only so much they can do as well. There there some Jewish bodygaurds who can protect me that JTF knows? I don't have much money so, can they do so pro-bono? I need help. Thanks

The police can do it pro-bono. Why don't you report it and get an order of protection.

IsraelForever · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2014, 07:51:32 PM »

If you have a phone that takes video, then video record her a few times and show it to the police. Also, have you spoken to the president of the Co-Op Board about this? She should be warned to stop or that they'll bring action and have her thrown out of the building. I think it works like that. Co-Op rules can be very strict and her behavior if off the chart.

Joe Gutfeld · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2014, 08:22:23 PM »

Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on January 06, 2014, 07:16:44 PM

The police can do it pro-bono. Why don't you report it and get an order of protection.

I tried to get an order of protection once. The problem is that the laws of NY states that the person has to be arrested for me to get one.

Joe Gutfeld · « **Reply #5 on:** January 06, 2014, 08:25:31 PM »

Quote from: cjd on January 06, 2014, 07:13:05 PM

Here we go again You were looking for help some years back and were told that there was not much that could be done... You should really think about moving since it seems the problems there are on going... Are you sure your not making your own troubles.

I remember. I couldn't get help then either. I'm just tired of getting crapped on from everyone.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #6 on:** January 06, 2014, 09:28:02 PM »

Secret camera+ youtube= she might think twice.

Oh I want to be your bodyguard pro-bono. Can I have some of that cat food though?

Joe Gutfeld · « **Reply #7 on:** January 06, 2014, 09:49:29 PM »

Quote from: LKZ on January 06, 2014, 09:28:02 PM

Secret camera+ youtube= she might think twice.

Oh I want to be your bodyguard pro-bono. Can I have some of that cat food though?

I did that once. She threatened to sue, so I took it down.

angryChineseKahanist · « **Reply #8 on:** January 06, 2014, 10:10:08 PM »

yah, like the others said. what about the co op board?
they once kicked out Madonna for being obnoxious.

Spiraling Leopard · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2014, 06:07:09 AM »

Try some boxing lessons.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #10 on:** January 07, 2014, 07:29:31 AM »

Quote from: Joe Gutfeld on January 06, 2014, 09:49:29 PM

I did that once. She threatened to sue, so I took it down.

I hate when random stangers put up webcams in my building and post it on youtube, without leaving proof of involvement.

nessuno · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2014, 08:17:18 AM »

Quote from: Joe Gutfeld on January 06, 2014, 08:22:23 PM

I tried to get an order of protection once. The problem is that the laws of NY states that the person has to be arrested for me to get one.

But you have filed a police report. Right?
You need to have the harassment on record.
The cats roam the building? Doesn't it bother your other neighbors?
Couldn't you form a group of residents to combat her.

fibrogirl · « **Reply #12 on:** January 07, 2014, 09:08:48 AM »

Quote from: Joe Gutfeld on January 06, 2014, 06:26:41 PM

Hello JTFers! I'm having trouble with a Hispanic woman who lives in my co-op in NYC. This "woman" has been harassing me for years because I don't approve of her feeding the stray cats who roam in my co-op. Because I don't, she follows me around the complex and curses and threatens me on almost a daily basis. The management and the Public safety force can only do so much. This "woman" is trying to get me into a fist-fight which is not going to happen from my end...

Good for you that you are not going to get into a fist fight.

Can I ask Do the cats actually go inside your own apartment?
Or is it just the corridors of an apartment block?
Do the other neighbours like the cats in the corridor?

My Mum feeds 14 stray cats outside our apartment here in Israel. The neighbours hate it.
There are constant quarrels with the neighbours. It already came to mild violence on one occasion.
The problem is my Mum does not sleep at night if she does not feed the cats for one day.
Often the people who feed stray cats like your Hispanic neighbour and my Mum don't sleep at night if they miss feeding the cats.

My Mum goes out to feed cats on days when she has the flu. Others like her go out when it is freezing cold, even though they are dying to stay in bed.
They get extremely upset and angry when neighbours comment on it, nevermind complain. I see it in many stray cat feeders, not just my Mum. They sincerely can not stop.

If your neighbour is being anti-semitic, or the argument has expanded and she has become verbally abusive for things that have nothing to do with cats, or if the cats are actually entering your apartment then you are in your rights to do something to defend yourself.

Do the cats actually go into your private apartment?

Zelhar · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2014, 09:34:48 AM »

Quote from: Joe Gutfeld on January 06, 2014, 06:26:41 PM

Hello JTFers! I'm having trouble with a Hispanic woman who lives in my co-op in NYC. This "woman" has been harassing me for years because I don't approve of her feeding the stray cats who roam in my co-op. Because I don't, she follows me around the complex and curses and threatens me on almost a daily basis. The management and the Public safety force can only do so much. This "woman" is trying to get me into a fist-fight which is not going to happen from my end. I wish that JTF can help me, but, once again there is only so much they can do as well. There there some Jewish bodygaurds who can protect me that JTF knows? I don't have much money so, can they do so pro-bono? I need help. Thanks

I want to help HER! You need a shrink not a body guard. Just let her feed the poor cats and stay off her business.

nessuno · « **Reply #14 on:** January 07, 2014, 09:42:17 AM »

Does a stray cat have to walk into my house for me to be annoyed by it?

Finding dead birds, and other gifts, all over my property is no picnic.

The problem is there is no easy answer for Joe Gutfeld.
To complain makes you the unsympathetic person.

Plus, I don't think there is anything JTFers can do to help him. He has been told this before. Unless, he just wants to vent.

mord · « **Reply #15 on:** January 07, 2014, 09:56:15 AM »

Joe if you don't mind me asking are you a young man or are you elderly? You can just tell her you'll destroy the food.Having said that i used to feed pigeons on my property

Joe Gutfeld · « **Reply #16 on:** January 07, 2014, 06:23:28 PM »

I'm not a young or an old man. True I'm venting a little. The reason is that I did create a face book page for my co-op. But when I posted what happened, I got blasted. Sometimes I feel like Charlie Brown. You know, it's ok when someone else does something, but not OK if I do it or take action on what I feel if there is something wrong.

Zelhar · « **Reply #17 on:** January 07, 2014, 06:50:58 PM »

Did you try to make peace with that neighbor?

angryChineseKahanist · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2014, 12:02:11 AM »

Quote from: Zelhar on January 07, 2014, 09:34:48 AM

I want to help HER! You need a shrink not a body guard. Just let her feed the poor cats and stay off her business.

easy. I don't think he's blaming the cats.

serbian army · « **Reply #19 on:** January 08, 2014, 01:52:43 AM »

My monkey neighbors had to pay 150 dollars for leaving their trash in hallway. I guess that 3 warnings were not enough. Apartment/condo living sucks bad. If you have one fool to move in next to you then your life can become a living hell.

Joe Gutfeld · « **Reply #20 on:** January 08, 2014, 11:12:00 AM »

Quote from: bullcat3 on January 07, 2014, 08:17:18 AM

But you have filed a police report. Right?
You need to have the harassment on record.
The cats roam the building? Doesn't it bother your other neighbors?
Couldn't you form a group of residents to combat her.

I've filed a whole bunch of harassment complaints with the public safety in the co-op. The problem is that she has also done the same to me. So, it's considered a wash and so the police are not called in for this.

nessuno · « **Reply #21 on:** January 08, 2014, 12:40:58 PM »

Quote from: mord on January 07, 2014, 09:56:15 AM

Joe if you don't mind me asking are you a young man or are you elderly? You can just tell her you'll destroy the food.Having said that i used to feed pigeons on my property

Destroying the food might be a misdemeanor.
Proving that the woman is creating a nuisance seems the only way.
It is best not to discuss it with her though.

http://www.nycferalcat.org/TNRLawsNYC.pdf