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RationalThought110:

--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on August 02, 2007, 09:51:48 AM ---That is a Makhloket between the Ibn Ezra, and the Abarbanel on side, who hold that a weak Sanhedrin that appoints dictators as needed, like in the time of the Shoftim.

The Rambam and Sefer HaChinuch hold that a Malkhut(Kingship) that rules with the Sanhedrin with specific powers given to each is the correct system.

Mind you this is on the national level local government is Democratic

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Could you explain what is meant by Sanhedrin?

kahaneloyalist:
The Sanhedrin is a body of the 70 greatest Jewish sages of the day.

q_q_:

--- Quote from: newman on August 02, 2007, 09:56:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on August 02, 2007, 09:51:48 AM ---That is a Makhloket between the Ibn Ezra, and the Abarbanel on side, who hold that a weak Sanhedrin that appoints dictators as needed, like in the time of the Shoftim.

The Rambam and Sefer HaChinuch hold that a Malkhut(Kingship) that rules with the Sanhedrin with specific powers given to each is the correct system.

Mind you this is on the national level local government is Democratic

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What do they do if the dictator goes out of control?

Didn't G_d counsel against having Kings some time after the book of Judges?

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I think G-d appoints the king, with some sign.
It'd be a good one to ask askmoses.com, if you get a good rabbi! (if you use it enough you'll know who is good!)

BTW, there is some audio about it here...
http://www.dovidgottlieb.com/Rabbi_Gottlieb_Tapes.html
under Democracy 1 and 2.
As you say, a Torah state with a king, is not democracy
Prophets , The King, the Sanhedrin each have their role.

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