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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2014, 01:06:29 AM »
So who are these groups besides Satmer and NK?

 Pretty much all of them.

 To more extreme like Aurbach and his faction to less extreme like R' Steinman who was repeatedly attacked by the more extreme elements recently and in the past as well because he dared say he supported Nachal Haredi (but this was in the past_ he got his car blown! Recently someone tried to stab him.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2014, 01:07:38 AM »
Breslov are really independent people. Anyone can and does call themselves Breslov, since Rebbe Nachman's death they didn't and don't really have any structure.
 Not sure about the Breslov you are probably more familiar with.

Sadly, I can count with one hand all the Breslovers I know in my area. I do imagine in Mea Sharim. I am just concerned that people don't get the impression that everyone in a black hat and peyot is going to start fighting and yelling at everyone. Those people in the rally don't realize the harm they are doing by giving others a bad image.

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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2014, 01:09:32 AM »
Pretty much all of them.

 To more extreme like Aurbach and his faction to less extreme like R' Steinman who was repeatedly attacked by the more extreme elements recently and in the past as well because he dared say he supported Nachal Haredi (but this was in the past_ he got his car blown! Recently someone tried to stab him.

This is very angering! 

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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2014, 01:12:32 AM »
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2014, 01:19:29 AM »
This is very angering!

 *Sorry correction it wasn't stabbing the second time, but the first thing is correct, this is what happened during the elections
 
  Bnei Brak - 99-Year-Old Rabbi R’ Shteinman Attacked By Haredi Man 
 http://www.vosizneias.com/144320/2013/10/23/venerated-99-year-old-haredi-rabbi-attacked-in-his-own-home-jpost-israel-news/

"grabbed the startled rabbi with both hands and began shaking him violently while verbally accosting him with taunts that he had come “to get revenge.” "
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2014, 08:48:04 AM »

 I hope Chaim does a video exposing their fallacy. 

 

Chaim is a one-off calibre fellow.

But this is where his not having studied in yeshivah shows.

It needs now an RMK or BZK or DBC to actually quote Halachic sources like the Rambam that defending the borders of Eretz Yisrael is a Milchemes Mitzvah obligatory even on a bridegroom in his nuptial chmaber, and in which the Charedim especially are commanded to get military training and join in!

The fact is that the very last thing the Israeli TPTB want is a vast horde of Charedim with guns and smallarms training!

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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2014, 11:01:34 AM »
Write in full words please, don't understand what your saying.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2014, 12:14:02 AM »
Bennett hits it on the head yet again:

"Military service is not an edict.....it is a mitzva!"
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/177988#.UxK9cJtWHn4

This is a total anathema both to the Charedim and the Chillonim!



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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2014, 12:53:26 AM »
Bennett hits it on the head yet again:

"Military service is not an edict.....it is a mitzva!"
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/177988#.UxK9cJtWHn4

This is a total anathema both to the Charedim and the Chillonim!



The contemporary IDF is almost an occupying Nazi army. I don't blame people who do not want to join it.

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Re: Hareidi Rabbi: We’ll Fight Like in Ukraine
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2014, 01:16:45 AM »
The contemporary IDF is almost an occupying Nazi army. I don't blame people who do not want to join it.

 Its rhetoric like this that tells other people- CRAZY


 + Someone randomly reading this idiotic comment would come to think that your speaking about the IDF treating the Fakistinians like the Germs treated the Jews (this is the kind of rhetoric many times seen by the leftists and Mooslims these days you know).
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.