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Great Purim insights
« on: March 13, 2014, 02:11:49 AM »
Credit to "Aman Ex" from Facebook (He wrote it, I would like to share this great insights).

 I would like say that while most sum up the story of Purim like this "the Jews escaped decree of death and were saved by Esther", I would like to add an important detail that most, for some reason, don't mention:

 The Jewish people were given the go-ahead by the King to actually "stand for their lives, to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish all the forces of the people and city that would afflict them." (Esther 8:11) "And many of the people of the land became Jews because the fear of the Jews fell upon them" (Esther 8:17), "And the Jews struck their enemies with the strike of the sword, and with slaughter and with destruction, and they did what they wanted with all who hated them." (Esther 9:5).

 As we see, we were not the poor, physically incapable, defenseless people that we, ourselves, make us out to be and to have been. Unfortunately, we have become that way today, but let us return to days of old, which we request from HaShem: "renew our days as of ancient ones" - make us like we used to be, before our crippling exile, that is what geula, redemption, is and is all about.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Great Purim insights
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2014, 04:25:55 PM »
Yeah, who needs Esther anyway... I guess there is no need to celebrate Purim anymore...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Great Purim insights
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2014, 05:06:32 PM »
Yeah, who needs Esther anyway... I guess there is no need to celebrate Purim anymore...

 What is your problem? Learn how to read and not just jump on things just because I brought it. Anyway if you read again its not against Purim nor against Ester. Quite frankly I'm disgusted in you for saying that.
 It points out a detail that we often miss out on, that in addition to everything else we also arose and fought against our enemies. This lesson is no different then the many lessons and Parsha (and holiday) commentaries by Rav Kahane ZTL.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Great Purim insights
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2014, 05:11:34 PM »
What is your problem? Learn how to read and not just jump on things just because I brought it. Anyway if you read again its not against Purim nor against Ester. Quite frankly I'm disgusted in you for saying that.
 It points out a detail that we often miss out on, that in addition to everything else we also arose and fought against our enemies. This lesson is no different then the many lessons and Parsha (and holiday) commentaries by Rav Kahane ZTL.

I am fully aware that the Jews were permitted to obliterate the enemies of Israel. When one reads the Megillah this is obvious. Maybe I don't know who this comment was aimed for (someone unfamiliar with the story?)...

But to learn from Purim that the Jews were able to defeat their enemies simply because they wanted to seems to miss the point. There was a great miracle, a great Teshuva (return/repentance) which took place, there was fasting and sack-cloth and Torah learning which is what ultimately allowed the turn around in fate.

Indeed Hashem decreed  the destruction of the Jews, and in the end he permitted us to fight back and be victorious. I see this more as a lesson of faith in Hashems mercy rather than thinking that the might of my own hand makes me victorious.

I am sorry for being so confrontational with you Tag. Deep down I know we share the same desire to see Klal Yisroel restored to our special position in the world. While I am all for strength and military arms, I also believe that spiritual growth is required for the Jews to attain our potential.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Great Purim insights
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 05:17:23 PM »
Let me add my personal lesson I take...

The Jewish people were scattered and divided at the beginning of the Megillah. It is this division and machloket which permitted Haman to achieve his desire to doom the Jewish population to extermination. But when Esther called the three day fast, the sack-cloth and Torah learning, the people once again accepted the Torah. This has been compared to Sinai Part II, where we said 'Na'ase Ve'Nishma' (We will do, and we will hear)... Because of this Hashem permitted the Jews to go on a campaign of destruction of the wicked Jew haters... Because of our Unity (like at the base of Sinai) we were able to bring down the biggest enemies...


You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Great Purim insights
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2014, 05:19:37 PM »
He says he's a Breslover, does that make it acceptable to you now?
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Great Purim insights
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 05:24:22 PM »
Shalom Tag.... I suspect I reacted because it seemed to leave out the Hashem aspect of the holiday and instead concentrated on the 'we have the power' aspect....  I am sorry if I disparaged the message...

I agree that a lot of Jews do not cherish the idea of rising up against our oppressors and rather rely on miracles. This is a problem which must be dealt with, but by saying we do it entirely on our own seems against the basic ideas of Torah (to me at least)...

I believe that Hashem grants us the power to destroy any obstacle which is placed before us. With the confidence that Hashem is with us we are virtually unbeatable. As it is learned in the Tochacha (rebukes) that when we keep Torah one Jew will pursue 100 enemies, 10 Jews will pursue 10000 enemies... With Jewish unity our enemies fall like melted butter...

Here is a lesson of the Lubavitch Rebbe which brings the concept I was trying to express regarding the comparison of Purim to the Sinai experience...



The Jews fulfilled and accepted upon themselves ... to observe these days of Purim...

Esther 9:27

"Fulfilled and accepted"--they fulfilled (on Purim) that which they had already accepted back then (at Sinai)

Talmud, Shabbat 88a

Haman’s decree "to destroy, kill and annihilate all the Jews, young and old, infants and women" was neither the first nor the last such attempt by our enemies to destroy us. But this was the only time in our history that the threat to our physical existence was so immediate and all-inclusive. A single day--the 13th of Adar--was set aside for the total extinction of Israel. The Persian empire included 127 provinces, from India to Ethiopia; every Jew on the face of the earth lived in this domain and was subject to Haman’s decree.

The comprehensive nature of Purim extends also to its inner significance. Underlying the physical events recounted in the Book of Esther was a spiritual drama involving each and every Jew and profoundly affecting the very essence of our nationhood and our relationship with G‑d. Paradoxically, Purim represented both a nadir in terms of the divine presence in our lives as well as a "moment of truth" which galvanized our covenant with G-d and set it upon its eternal foundations.

A Jarring Experience

On the sixth day of Sivan in the year 2448 from creation (1313 bce), the entire nation of Israel assembled at the foot of Mount Sinai. There G‑d chose us as His people and we committed ourselves to observe the laws of life as outlined in His Torah.

The Talmud points out, however, that nearly one thousand years were to pass before our covenant with G‑d was sealed. As formulated at Sinai, the contract between G‑d and Israel contained certain vulnerabilities; in fact, its very validity was contestable. It was only nine-and-a-half centuries later, with the events of Purim, that our acceptance of the Torah was established upon an unshakable foundation.

The Torah (Exodus 19:17) tells us that prior to the revelation at Sinai, the people of Israel "stood beneath the mountain." How does one stand "beneath" a mountain? The Talmud interprets this to mean that "G‑d held the mountain over them like a jar and said to them: ‘If you accept the Torah, fine; if not, here shall be your grave.’"

But a most basic rule of Torah law is that a contract entered into under duress is not binding. Hence, concludes the Talmud, there was a standing contest to the legality of our commitment to observe the Torah.

But during the events of Purim, the Jewish people reaffirmed their acceptance of the divine law without any hint of coercion from Above. In the words of the Book of Esther (9:27), "they fulfilled and accepted"--they established as valid and incontestable that which they had accepted a millennium earlier at Sinai.

Forced by Truth

At Sinai, G‑d revealed His very essence to man. As the Torah tells it, "G‑d descended upon Mount Sinai" and we "saw the G‑d of Israel." On that day, we "were shown to know that G‑d is the Supreme Being--there is none else besides Him"; "Face to face G‑d spoke to [us], on the mountain, from within the fire."

Therein lies the deeper significance of the "coercion" to accept the Torah at Sinai. At Sinai, we had no choice. Faced with such an awesome revelation of the divine truth, one could hardly doubt or dissent. In effect, we were "forced" to accept the Torah; overwhelmed and completely enveloped by the divine reality ("the mountain held over them like a jar"), we could not but commit ourselves to our divinely ordained mission and role.

The Dark Ages

In terms of any open signs of the divine presence in our lives, the events of Purim were the diametric opposite of the revelation at Sinai.

G‑d’s home on earth, the Beit HaMikdash (Holy Temple) in Jerusalem, lay in ruins, its rebuilding, ordered fourteen years earlier by the emperor Cyrus, halted by Achashveirosh’s decree. The era of prophecy--G‑d’s direct communication to man--was coming to a close. We were in exile, at the mercy of our enemies, and G‑d seemed oblivious to the fate of His chosen people. Even the miracle of Purim was so completely clothed in natural events, that G‑d’s guiding hand in all that occurred was shrouded by the illusion of fortunate coincidence. This is most powerfully demonstrated by the fact that in the entire Book of Esther, there is not a single mention of G‑d’s name!

How did this spiritual blackout affect our commitment to G‑d? It spurred us to what can be described as the greatest demonstration of our loyalty to Him in our history. For eleven months, a decree of annihilation hung over the entire community of Israel. As the Book of Esther relates, even after Haman had fallen out of favor with the king and was hanged, the decree he initiated remained in effect; the only thing that Esther was able to achieve was to prevail upon Achashveirosh to issue a second decree, in which the Jews were given the right to resist those who came to kill them. The first decree, calling upon all citizens of the realm to annihilate the Jewish minority in their midst on the 13th of Adar, remained in force until that date, when the Jews were victorious in their war against their enemies, killing 75,000 of their attackers.

For that entire year, when being a Jew meant that one’s life was free for the taking by imperial decree, not a single Jew broke ranks from his people to seek safety by assimilating into the pagan populace. In fact, the Book of Esther records that that period saw many conversions to Judaism! So strongly did the Jews radiate their faith in G‑d and their confidence in His salvation, that many of their neighbors were motivated to join a people with such a powerful and immutable relationship with G‑d.

This is how the our Sinaic covenant with G‑d was valided on Purim. This time, the divine presence did not hover over us, compelling us to recognize its truth. On the contrary: the divine face was hidden. We were on our own, our commitment to G‑d stemming wholly from within, from an inner choice to cleave to Him regardless of how invisible He remained to us.

The Proof

This is not to say that on Purim a new, valid contract replaced the original, "contestable" one. If that were the case, what was the point of the revelation at Sinai? Certainly, the Torah was a binding commitment between ourselves and G‑d for the 950 years from Moses to Esther. Rather, as the Talmud interprets the Book of Esther, "They fulfilled what they had already accepted": Purim was the fulfillment and corroboration of a truth that had already been established at Mount Sinai.

That truth is that our relationship with G‑d is not bounded by reason. It is not dependent upon our understanding of it, or even upon our conscious awareness of its existence. It transcends our conscious self, residing in the very core of our souls.

This is the deeper significance of why we were "compelled" to receive the Torah at Mount Sinai. Not because we would not have freely chosen to do so on our own, but because a consciously chosen commitment could not begin to express the true extent of our acceptance of the Torah. Our covenant with G‑d extends beyond the finite world of our conscious desires, embracing the infinite expanses of our supra-conscious self--the supra-conscious self that always "sees" G‑d and is unequivocally aware of His truth. At Sinai, this supra-conscious self was revealed. Our conscious self, comprising but a minute corner of our soul, was completely overwhelmed and its "choice-making" mechanisms were completely silenced.

This was the true significance of what occurred when we "stood beneath the mountain." But for many centuries, the events at Sinai were open to misinterpretation. In our own minds, we remembered the event as a time when we were overwhelmed by the divine truth and compelled to accept it. Did this come from within, from a place in our souls not accessible by the conscious self? Or perhaps it came from without, from an external force which coerced us, against our own true will, into our covenant with G‑d?

Then came Purim, with its total eclipse of all perceivable G‑dliness. To remain a Jew, to remain loyal to our covenant with G‑d, was a choice uninfluenced by any supra-conscious revelations. By choosing to accept the Torah under such circumstances, we affirmed that this is the true will of the Jew. We affirmed that our "coercion" at Sinai was not against our will, but completely consistent with what we truly desire.

The Willful Mitzvah

Thus Purim revealed a new dimension to our observance of Torah, establishing it as a freely elected way of life, as opposed to a set of compelling duties. And this thousand-year difference is reflected in several of the mitzvot of Purim.

The festival observances are usually specially ordained mitzvot unique to their festival, such as sounding the shofar on Rosh HaShanah or eating matzah on Passover. But there are two Purim observances about which there appears to be nothing "original," for they seem to be only extensions of general, year-round precepts of the Torah.

On Purim we send gifts of food, called mishloach manot, to friends and neighbors in order to promote fellowship and love between us. Another Purim mitzvah, mattanot la’evyonim, is to seek out a minimum of two paupers and give them gifts of money. But to "love your fellow as yourself" and to give charity are year-round duties for the Jew. What makes these distinctly Purim observances?

But the Torah does not obligate us to initiate gestures of friendship or to seek out the needy. The commandment "Love your fellow as yourself" only mandates that when you do come in contact with your fellow, you treat him with love and respect. The laws of charity mandate that when a needy person asks for your help, you are obligated to render assistance. What is unique about the way we fulfill these mitzvot on Purim is that we actively seek out opportunities to do so.

For Purim emphasizes our desire to fulfill the commandments of the Torah. Also one who does something only out of a sense of duty may do the deed properly and wholeheartedly; conceivably, two individuals may be doing the same thing, one of them out of a deep-felt desire to do so and the other because he feels obligated, and we may not be able to tell the difference between the two. But what if no obligating circumstances exist? Does one pursue the deed and seek to obligate oneself? Here is where the difference is revealed--this is what distinguishes the willing, desirous actor from the merely obedient one.

The Purim mitzvot of mishloach manot and mattanot la’evyonim highlight the "choice" element in our relationship with G‑d: that this is a relationship not only bound by ties of duty but also cemented with the bond of will.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Great Purim insights
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 05:25:03 PM »
He says he's a Breslover, does that make it acceptable to you now?

Of course.... (just joking)...

I apologize for mocking your post... Should I delete the mocking post?
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14