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apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« on: April 15, 2014, 06:09:54 PM »
Is there anything in Torah such as Baal teshuva or movements like Jews for Judaism we can use to outreach jews who have become apostates to Judaism and get them back to living a Jewish life? Do any of you have success stories of bringing jews back to Judaism? It seems like this has sadly become more common because some jews remain ignorant about Torah or do not have a synagogue nearby and end up joining false movements like the messianics or are mislead into believing in another religion. I have had this happen to family and I know it is a grave sin for a Jew to participate in idol worship. How should one address this?Would a chabad be a good recommendation?
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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2014, 04:14:16 AM »
There is a video I saw in youtube of a  former J4J who became a religious Jew, he talks about his experience and what brought him into and out of that cult.

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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2014, 06:08:15 AM »
Some apostates like Brother Nathanel Kapner have wrought such damage that we would never accept them back!


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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2014, 12:42:16 PM »
A after reading about brother Nathaniel I really truly believe he is mentally ill.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2014, 01:27:56 PM »
Some apostates like Brother Nathanel Kapner have wrought such damage that we would never accept them back!


He is one self-hating POS & a Jewish Anti-Semite.

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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2014, 02:21:08 PM »
Is Nathanael Kapner even Jewish? I read an article before something about him not being actually Jewish but can't find it. I think there would probably be a lot of cognitive dissonance going on if he was Jewish because he didn't get invited to the control the world party.

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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2014, 02:48:49 PM »
A after reading about brother Nathaniel I really truly believe he is mentally ill.

Kapner is a WACK JOB.
Look how he is dressed, he is so unsure of his own self that he dresses like a MORON.
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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2014, 03:15:16 PM »
Some apostates like Brother Nathanel Kapner have wrought such damage that we would never accept them back!



I actually saw him once running near me. I regret not knocking him off in his ugly parasitic subhuman face.
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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2014, 10:36:10 PM »
  For some like "brother" nethaniel, we just pray for their ultimate and total demise. Remember what the Haggadah says to do to the Rasha- blunt his teeth out. Although in this case this type of excrement is worse then the Rasha. At least the Rasha somewhat associates with being Jewish, scumm like them are Malshinim and we pray for their total destruction.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2014, 11:28:27 PM »
There are several Anti-Missionary sites available and youtube channels...

Jews4Judaism
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jews4Judaism

http://jewsforjudaism.org/

Tovia Singer is an incredible anti-missionary rabbi...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaw8quRcRzjmw0BI1vn-dnA

Chabad is not an anti-missionary organization. It's only suggestion to the nations is to keep the 7 Noachide commandments.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2014, 11:44:14 PM »
There are several Anti-Missionary sites available and youtube channels...

Jews4Judaism
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jews4Judaism

http://jewsforjudaism.org/

Tovia Singer is an incredible anti-missionary rabbi...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaw8quRcRzjmw0BI1vn-dnA


Chabad is not an anti-missionary organization. It's only suggestion to the nations is to keep the 7 Noachide commandments.
Not so you have no idea of what you are talking about National Committee for the Furtherance of Jewish Education is Chabad's anti-missionary arm.
Read Confessions of a Cult Buster By Rabbi Shea Hecht who is the head of this organization founded by his late father Rabbi J.J. Hecht,ZT"L

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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2014, 11:52:12 PM »
Not so you have no idea of what you are talking about National Committee for the Furtherance of Jewish Education is Chabad's anti-missionary arm.
Read Confessions of a Cult Buster By Rabbi Shea Hecht who is the head of this organization founded by his late father Rabbi J.J. Hecht,ZT"L

I was not aware that they did this. The average Chabad house does not really deal with this.

I was aware of Rabbi Emmanuel Shochet (Zt'l) , an anti-missionary rabbi from Chabad...



http://www.torahcafe.com/jewishvideo.php?vid=3a17a19e1
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: apostate Jews - can we bring them back to Judaism?
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 12:02:46 AM »
Here he talks about the Noachide Laws...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14