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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2014, 07:21:08 AM »
I think our number one problem is that right wing Jews are an oppressed minority in Israel. Right wing religious Jews are being kept silent and excluded and defamed. I want the same rights that leftists and Arabs and Russians get in Israel. I think it is more important that JTF work on that issue which is what it does. Otherwise all we would have is a little support club to vent out our opinions, not that there is anything wrong with that but we could never achieve anything meaningful by being a social club.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2014, 07:23:45 AM »
I got people to talk about it so I succeeded in getting this spoken about.
I am going to  continue make noise until thousands of other people do likewise.
My grandparents didn't survive the pogroms to have their oppresers take advantage of Jews in their own land.
Get a clue Manch  & respect somebody who has around longer than you have & has seen things you have yet to see or may never see.
Experience speaks for itself.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2014, 11:33:31 AM »
I got people to talk about it so I succeeded in getting this spoken about.
I am going to  continue make noise until thousands of other people do likewise.
My grandparents didn't survive the pogroms to have their oppresers take advantage of Jews in their own land.
Get a clue Manch  & respect somebody who has around longer than you have & has seen things you have yet to see or may never see.
Experience speaks for itself.
You are the one who is clueless. You used an inappropriate tone against me and I deliberately ignored that until I responded in kind. Discussing these matters with you is as productive as discussing Israel submarines upgrades with LKZ - completely nuts. You're obsessed and probably was turned down by a Russian woman, which would explain your problem.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2014, 11:38:33 AM »
Show me where Chaim has neglected this issue. He is against Russian Gentiles coming to Israel as much as you are.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2014, 11:40:31 AM »
Ok guys. Quit with the personal attacks
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2014, 11:54:06 AM »
You are the one who is clueless. You used an inappropriate tone against me and I deliberately ignored that until I responded in kind. Discussing these matters with you is as productive as discussing Israel submarines upgrades with LKZ - completely nuts. You're obsessed and probably was turned down by a Russian woman, which would explain your problem.
I never dated Goy women in my life & you started with me.
Even Chaim Chaim said I was right.
FYI,I am happily married which you probably aren't which only proves you are frustrated & why you attack both LKZ & me constantly.
Everybody else said you were wrong so drop it & that you attacked with first & without cause.
By not dropping it you are only proving you are the obessed one

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2014, 11:55:55 AM »
Show me where Chaim has neglected this issue. He is against Russian Gentiles coming to Israel as much as you are.
He hasn't & Shlomo pointed it out to me.
I must have over looked it but indeed he did speak up on the issue.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2014, 02:14:40 PM »
I never dated Goy women in my life & you started with me.
Even Chaim Chaim said I was right.
FYI,I am happily married which you probably aren't which only proves you are frustrated & why you attack both LKZ & me constantly.
Everybody else said you were wrong so drop it & that you attacked with first & without cause.
By not dropping it you are only proving you are the obessed one

"Name calling is the last refuge of a non-thinker" (Rabbi Meir Kahane,ZT"L.HY"D,ZY"A)

I believe the word he used was "defamation". : )


Anyways, I don't get it. He brings up his website with a moving intro, and everyone complains that he is obsessed with Russian Goyim. If that's the case, then you're all obsessed with black guys and Jewish celebrities.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2014, 02:18:38 PM »
I believe the word he used was "defamation". : )


Anyways, I don't get it. He brings up his website with a moving intro, and everyone complains that he is obsessed with Russian Goyim. If that's the case, then you're all obsessed with black guys and Jewish celebrities.
Touche`

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2014, 04:18:53 PM »
That nobody not even Chaim is willing to take on the issue of all the Russian Goyim that have been brought into Israel & given citizenship.
Chaim & other bonafide Jews are denied & all these [censored] are welcome with open arms.
What gives?
Did we fight for the cause of Soviet Jews to have Goyim come here?
Again I urge any of you if you care to see www.pogrom.org.il to see what the plague of the Russian Goyim has done to Israel.(This site was a made by a bonafide Russian Jew not a [censored])
Please Chaim & everybody I am urging you to make an issue of this.
Why is everybody afraid to touch this issue.
I am a lone voice & can not do it alone but if others raise the issue it will be heard.
Together we can make a difference & let the world know about this.
Maybe you can bring this topic up on the next Ask JTF show. 

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2014, 07:37:37 PM »
I never dated Goy women in my life & you started with me.
Even Chaim Chaim said I was right.
FYI,I am happily married which you probably aren't which only proves you are frustrated & why you attack both LKZ & me constantly.
Everybody else said you were wrong so drop it & that you attacked with first & without cause.
By not dropping it you are only proving you are the obessed one

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The lady doth protest too much, methinks
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2014, 11:20:19 PM »
The lady doth protest too much, methinks

No need to be snide. What's your problem with him talking about this issue, do you want the Russian goyim to stay? What should be done about the problems related to Russian non-Jews sneaking into and causing crime in Israel?
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2014, 11:31:19 PM »
No need to be snide. What's your problem with him talking about this issue, do you want the Russian goyim to stay? What should be done about the problems related to Russian non-Jews sneaking into and causing crime in Israel?
I am begining to think Manch is a troll & not a real Kahanist at all.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2014, 11:35:34 PM »
Manch is not a troll, but I don't know what is wrong with CK having a burning issue on his heart. These illegals have no right to be in Israel--no more than the African wetbacks do.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2014, 11:45:01 PM »
I am begining to think Manch is a troll & not a real Kahanist at all.

I don't know anything about either of you. Maybe Manch just brought a Russian Jewish friend here and he though it was racist, so he's doing it to prove that it's not. I don't know either of your stories, but I'm interested in learning about the issue, and I'm trying to make the silly fight go away for whatever reason it's there.

My only other theory is that Manch is really a Russian detente agent that is here doing PR for Russia, but that's a little overboard, so I just want to hear why Manch doesn't believe this is such a big problem, because it might reveal something about the problem.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2014, 12:02:15 AM »
I don't know anything about either of you. Maybe Manch just brought a Russian Jewish friend here and he though it was racist, so he's doing it to prove that it's not. I don't know either of your stories, but I'm interested in learning about the issue, and I'm trying to make the silly fight go away for whatever reason it's there.

My only other theory is that Manch is really a Russian detente agent that is here doing PR for Russia, but that's a little overboard, so I just want to hear why Manch doesn't believe this is such a big problem, because it might reveal something about the problem.
No, he seemed to be quite pro-Ukrainian on another thread. As a Ukrainian and a Jew myself, I have no problem with ordinary, everyday Russians and I don't think he does either, it's just that I do believe Israel should be protected as a Jewish state.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2014, 12:04:32 AM »
Also due to intermarriage, many Ashkenazi Jews already in Israel still carry some Slavic and Germanic DNA, although usually not to as large an extent as I do (50%, because of my non-Jewish father). But, I have no doubt there are still vibrant Old Yishuv in Israel, it's just that unfortunately most of them live in close proximity to the invading Arabs.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2014, 12:29:39 AM »
Also due to intermarriage, many Ashkenazi Jews already in Israel still carry some Slavic and Germanic DNA, although usually not to as large an extent as I do (50%, because of my non-Jewish father). But, I have no doubt there are still vibrant Old Yishuv in Israel, it's just that unfortunately most of them live in close proximity to the invading Arabs.

Flesh is nothing, the soul is who you are. DNA changes with the environment, anyways.
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