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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2014, 12:29:40 PM »
I am not saying that I am saying the poseurs who came here
If they are not Jews they do not belong here.
As I said no African called my relatives Zhid or made pogroms against them.

They are scum because they don't belong there hmmhhmmm...
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2014, 12:31:14 PM »
They are scum because they don't belong there hmmhhmmm...
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2014, 12:33:11 PM »
Why are these scum given citizenship carte blance & Chaim can't even the country ?
Something stinks!!!!!

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2014, 12:36:31 PM »
My mother is a Russian Jew but the ones I am speaking of are not Jews!!!
Let them go elsewhere!!!!!

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2014, 12:37:29 PM »
First of all my family is originally from Russia & the Ukriane so I know what I am talking about.
Second of all my Russian Jewish friends all agree with me & feel as I do.
Next as far as putting words in your mouth hey dude if the shoe fits
Those guys were arrested most were crying in court.Most were half Jews  but two were full Jews who only attacked Black Sudanese and drunken bums 
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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2014, 12:43:12 PM »
Those guys were arrested most were crying in court.Most were half Jews  but two were full Jews who only attacked Black Sudanese and drunken bums
Mord my friend so who needs them here?
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2014, 12:52:03 PM »
They are scum because they don't belong there hmmhhmmm...

No they stab innocent people a lot. And murder, rape, and sell sex. Just like in Russia. No one's saying that all Russians are bad, but with enough Russians, a place will start to be like Russia, and Israel should be Jewish, not that.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2014, 01:05:09 PM »
They are scum & we don't need them here!!!!
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see, you do have a problem. And you are not being truthful that you have a lot of Russian Jewish friends and they all agree with you. I find this implausible since you are seething hatred towards any Russians who, I am sure, your so called Jewish friends know and befriend or have part as their extended family. You are obsessed with this one issue which makes me suspect that the problem is not really Russians per se. 
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2014, 01:35:41 PM »
see, you do have a problem. And you are not being truthful that you have a lot of Russian Jewish friends and they all agree with you. I find this implausible since you are seething hatred towards any Russians who, I am sure, your so called Jewish friends know and befriend or have part as their extended family. You are obsessed with this one issue which makes me suspect that the problem is not really Russians per se.
I am not obsessed at all see www.pogrom.org.il & you will change your tune!!!!!
Besides if they are not bonafide Jews they do not belong here.
Why are they given citizenship carte blanch & Chaim can not even enter the country?
If you sympathize with these dreck you are totally evil!!!!!

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2014, 01:51:37 PM »
I'm serious about what I asked before. Has Rabbi Kahane privately or otherwise, or any Kahanist publicly addressed this issue?
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2014, 03:09:21 PM »
I am not obsessed at all see www.pogrom.org.il & you will change your tune!!!!!
Besides if they are not bonafide Jews they do not belong here.
Why are they given citizenship carte blanch & Chaim can not even enter the country?
If you sympathize with these dreck you are totally evil!!!!!
Don't twist my words. You act like a moron who keeps repeating the same thing, hoping that it would stick.
You: If you sympathize with Russian nazis in Israel, creating pogroms in Israel, you're evil
I am: nazis in Israel, drawing swastikas, displaying nazi flags, vandalizing cemeteries (All: Russian, Arabs, Jews, Ukrainians, etc.)  should be killed. You must know that some of the "nazis" in Israel are Jews or have Jewish blood and some of the most ardent supporters of Israel living there are non-Jewish Russians.  You are hurting this movement by smearing all part-Jews and most Russians.
You: if you sympathize with this drek - you're evil
I: then you are too stupid and too obsessed to care about your opinion on the matter.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2014, 03:22:28 PM »
Don't twist my words. You act like a moron who keeps repeating the same thing, hoping that it would stick.
You: If you sympathize with Russian nazis in Israel, creating pogroms in Israel, you're evil
I am: nazis in Israel, drawing swastikas, displaying nazi flags, vandalizing cemeteries (All: Russian, Arabs, Jews, Ukrainians, etc.)  should be killed. You must know that some of the "nazis" in Israel are Jews or have Jewish blood and some of the most ardent supporters of Israel living there are non-Jewish Russians.  You are hurting this movement by smearing all part-Jews and most Russians.
You: if you sympathize with this drek - you're evil
I: then you are too stupid and too obsessed to care about your opinion on the matter.

First you call him a liar and now a moron, stupid and obsessed. I have to interject here because I would have gone crazy already, and I have to stand up and say what you're doing here is wrong. How do you know what happened to him, what he lived through, or the people he knows, or anything about him at all? Also, don't go leftist and say he is promoting killing them all. They must go, like the rest of those who don't belong in Israel.

If you're Kahanist, you believe that Hashem is right to say that they must go. If he provides a logical reason why, I think what is truly counter productive is to even have a debate along those lines, but cursing your brother over it is a crime. You're spilling his blood for the movement? Better that there was no JTF than one Jew gets cursed unjustly, because our job isn't to do what Hashem can do by snapping his fingers, it's to love G-d and observe his commandments, which include saying and fighting for the truth, but a mizvah through a sin is a sin, so you're the one hurting the movement by cursing him over this.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2014, 03:41:55 PM »
I agree that there is a problem but we have heard about it many times. I love ChabadKahanist and think he has a great point but I have to say it has been repeated many times and not much is accomplished. Is this baseless hatred? Not in the normal definition. There is a reason to hate the non-Jews who take advantage of the Jewish people's limited homeland and use it to desecrate the land. But I do not think all Russians with questionable Jewish background should be cursed. I know of Russian Jews whose Jewish lineage is broken and in need of some investigation but I don't let it lead to hatred.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2014, 03:45:44 PM »
I agree that there is a problem but we have heard about it many times. I love ChabadKahanist and think he has a great point but I have to say it has been repeated many times and not much is accomplished. Is this baseless hatred? Not in the normal definition. There is a reason to hate the non-Jews who take advantage of the Jewish people's limited homeland and use it to desecrate the land. But I do not think all Russians with questionable Jewish background should be cursed. I know of Russian Jews whose Jewish lineage is broken and in need of some investigation but I don't let it lead to hatred.

Ok, but I get where's he's coming from, no one wants to repeat a very real problem because of the "good Russians" but him, and maybe that's an issue he fights for. A movement can't a mass movement if you force people to adopt a mindset, but it will certainly have a chance if people can fit their mindset into its goals.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2014, 04:32:49 PM »
It wasn't an issue while he was alive. He was murdered I believe in 1990 so back then almost all the newcomers were Jews.
I'm serious about what I asked before. Has Rabbi Kahane privately or otherwise, or any Kahanist publicly addressed this issue?

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2014, 04:40:47 PM »
My opinion on this matter is that those of them who have legally obtained their citizenship in Israel should be allowed to stay. Those who cheated their way into Israel should be expelled unless they have now a valid reason to be allowed to live here such as marriage to an Israeli citizen.

I have a greater problem with the Ethiopian falash mura, by now they are probably not even falahmura but fakers, who are brought here and are a huge expense on Israeli taxpayers.

Of all the social-demographic challenges Israel is facing, these two are minor though.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2014, 04:56:32 PM »
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I agree with Chadad Kahanist.

Surely no one can accuse me of being against Russian Jews. I set off dozens of bombs to free them, risking my life repeatedly and ultimately losing my own freedom to save them. To this day, the excuse used to keep me out of Israel is that I spent time in prison fighting on behalf of Russian Jews.

So obviously I love our fellow Jews from the former Soviet Union. So does Chabad Kahanist. When he was in the JDL, our number one issue was liberating our brothers and sisters who were held hostage behind the Iron Curtain.

But we did not fight to bring the Russian anti-Semites who have always hated Jews and who murdered Jews for centuries into the land of Israel. This is a crime which evil Israeli governments committed because they do not want a truly Jewish state.

Having hundreds of thousands of Russian non-Jews in the Holy Land is both a demographic and a spiritual threat to Israel's existence as a Jewish state. They should be encouraged to leave.


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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2014, 12:19:18 AM »
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I agree with Chadad Kahanist.

Surely no one can accuse me of being against Russian Jews. I set off dozens of bombs to free them, risking my life repeatedly and ultimately losing my own freedom to save them. To this day, the excuse used to keep me out of Israel is that I spent time in prison fighting on behalf of Russian Jews.

So obviously I love our fellow Jews from the former Soviet Union. So does Chabad Kahanist. When he was in the JDL, our number one issue was liberating our brothers and sisters who were held hostage behind the Iron Curtain.

But we did not fight to bring the Russian anti-Semites who have always hated Jews and who murdered Jews for centuries into the land of Israel. This is a crime which evil Israeli governments committed because they do not want a truly Jewish state.

Having hundreds of thousands of Russian non-Jews in the Holy Land is both a demographic and a spiritual threat to Israel's existence as a Jewish state. They should be encouraged to leave.
I knew you would agree with me Chaim & everything you said above was exactly my point.
Manch thinks I am obsessed I am not but this must be repeated over & over again until people talk about it & it is brought to the forefront.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2014, 12:35:54 AM »
I knew you would agree with me Chaim & everything you said above was exactly my point.
Manch thinks I am obsessed I am not but this must be repeated over & over again until people talk about it & it is brought to the forefront.

K lets. What are the things besides general crime that religious people need to expect and how can you prepare for what the traitor government is allowing them to do?
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2014, 12:50:18 AM »
K lets. What are the things besides general crime that religious people need to expect and how can you prepare for what the traitor government is allowing them to do?

They are marrying Jewish men & thus making a new generation of Israeli born Goyim,this surely represents a demographic threat.
What can be done?
Making this well known so others will get on board until there are changes in the law of return.
Other than that I am fresh out of ideas.
If anybody else has some ideas please let us know.

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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2014, 01:00:39 AM »

They are marrying Jewish men & thus making a new generation of Israeli born Goyim,this surely represents a demographic threat.
What can be done?
Making this well known so others will get on board until there are changes in the law of return.
Other than that I am fresh out of ideas.
If anybody else has some ideas please let us know.

We could make a registration base with all the Rabbis that deal with Russian Jews so we can prove who is Jewish. We could also advocate kicking skinheads out of the country so people get used to the idea.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2014, 01:19:02 AM »
We could make a registration base with all the Rabbis that deal with Russian Jews so we can prove who is Jewish. We could also advocate kicking skinheads out of the country so people get used to the idea.
Good idea.
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« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2014, 02:03:55 AM »
Good idea.
Rabbi Kahane,ZT"L,HY"D once suggested the idea of a sefer yuchsin so the ones of questionable lineage can be weeded out

 Isn't that what is starting to be done today? (meaning even outside of the Hassidic circles that already have it).
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2014, 02:05:41 AM »
Good idea.
Rabbi Kahane,ZT"L,HY"D once suggested the idea of a sefer yuchsin so the ones of questionable lineage can be weeded out

We can make an online base with a iphone ap too.
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Re: I am disappointed
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2014, 06:14:02 AM »

They are marrying Jewish men & thus making a new generation of Israeli born Goyim,this surely represents a demographic threat.
What can be done?
Making this well known so others will get on board until there are changes in the law of return.
Other than that I am fresh out of ideas.
If anybody else has some ideas please let us know.

I have a real life example of this. And 9 yrs later he caught his wife cheating on him and stealing hundreds of thousands in cash from him.
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