Why Do Most Jews Support Obama?

[chicagojew]

http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-do-most-jews-stay-with-obama/

[Super Mentalita]

Because they are stupid leftwing idiots. Same as: Why do European people support political party's that fight a war against their own people and support the islamization of our society's.... Indeed yes, because they are stupid leftwing idiots.

[chicagojew]

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[muman613]

Simple answer. Jews have been voting Democrat since FDR was idolized as the great hope. Actually it looks like the Jews and the Democrats go back a little bit earlier than WWII...

Roosevelt got 90+% of the Jewish vote during WWII and the Jews have stuck with the democrats since then.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewvote.html

It has nothing to do with Obama but rather because he is a democrat...

[muman613]

Because they are stupid leftwing idiots. Same as: Why do European people support political party's that fight a war against their own people and support the islamization of our society's.... Indeed yes, because they are stupid leftwing idiots.

I doubt this is the real answer. Just calling names does not explain why Jews support the democrats. I would be willing to wager that many of the Jews who voted democrat have very high IQ's (not idiots) and most are not self-haters. Most Jews who vote democrat do so because they view the democrat party as more in line with some Jewish concepts. Also the 'wrong' perception that the right-wing republicans are the ones who are Jew haters makes the democrats more powerful.

[muman613]

I accept the explanation from the Wikipedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_and_involvement_in_US_politics

While earlier Jewish immigrants from Germany tended to be politically conservative, the wave of Eastern European Jews starting in the early 1880s, were generally more liberal or left wing and became the political majority.[1] Many of the latter came to America with experience in the socialist, anarchist and communist movements as well as the Labor Bund, emanating from Eastern Europe. Many Jews rose to leadership positions in the early 20th century American labor movement and helped to found unions that played a major role in left wing politics and, after 1936, in Democratic Party politics.[1] For most of the 20th century since 1936, the vast majority of Jews in the United States have been aligned with the Democratic Party. Towards the end of the 20th century and at the beginning of the 21st century, Republicans have launched initiatives to woo American Jews away from the Democratic Party.

Over the past century, Jews in Europe and the Americas have traditionally tended towards the political left, and played key roles in the birth of the labor movement as well as socialism. While Diaspora Jews have also been represented in the conservative side of the political spectrum, even politically conservative Jews have tended to support pluralism more consistently than many other elements of the political right.

There are also a number of Jewish secular organizations at the local, national, and international levels. These organizations often play an important part in the Jewish community. Most of the largest groups, such as Hadassah and the United Jewish Communities,[2] have an elected leadership. No one secular group represents the entire Jewish community, and there is often significant internal debate among Jews about the stances these organizations take on affairs dealing with the Jewish community as a whole, such as antisemitism and Israeli policies. In the United States and Canada today, the mainly secular United Jewish Communities (UJC), formerly known as the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), represents over 150 Jewish Federations and 400 independent communities across North America. Every major American city has its local "Jewish Federation", and many have sophisticated community centers and provide services, mainly health care-related. They raise record sums of money for philanthropic and humanitarian causes in North America and Israel. Other organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League, American Jewish Congress, American Jewish Committee, American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Zionist Organization of America, Americans for a safe Israel, B'nai B'rith and Agudath Israel represent different segments of the American Jewish community on a variety of issues.

[Every Jew AK47]

We Jews are taught that we are suppose to be helpless, weak and that we are inherently bad people who need the support of a nanny government to protect us..  The minute we Jews become vigilant, self-sufficient or question authority or promote independence from the government we are condemned , belittled and ostracized.   This is why the Democrat Party has been so effective at winning Jews, as they help feed the naive and brainwashed Jewish population the kool-aid they need to get their support.    I'm sad to say that many Jews in America have no backbone and are brainwashed from a young age to feel weak and the Democrats are the ones who will nurture this week feeling.   They are taught that Republicans or right-wing people are all racist and many Jews buy into it, when not realizing that in fact, the Democrat party has been the most dedicated to bringing the destruction of the Jewish people and supporting all the most Anti-Semitic measures against Jewish people as well as aiding and empowering Muslims.

I know I was among these people, but broke free from the brainwashing and helpless mindset in my early 20s when I first made Teshuva.

[Lisa]

Every Jew, who do you think teaches us to be weak and helpless? 

[Every Jew AK47]

Every Jew, who do you think teaches us to be weak and helpless?

Well, I am not speaking for every Jew, as I too am an American Jew, but I was not raised around other Jews and grew up in Oregon around gentiles after I was 12.   So, I was influenced by the people around me rather than the Jewish community.

What do they teach us?  They teach us that Republicans are all racist and members of the Ku Klux Klan.   Basically, the liberals will scare the JEws into thinking that if they don't vote for them, that they will all be rounded up and sent to death camps.  You would be surprised at how many naive liberal Jews will scream at me that I am a Nazi because I didn't vote for Obama, that I am helping all the Jews go back to Auschwitz.  Many Jews believe that the Democrats are the only people  to protect them and that Americans are evil, racist people and without the Democrats protecting them they are doomed.    They think Americans who are not Democrats are all evil racist gun toting nazis.     Many Jewish people are taught from a young age that they need to rely on their government and the authority to protect them.  Jews are taught over and over how they are victims, helpless, weak and that only a "GOOD" government and "GOOD" police and "GOOD" military people will have their best interests in mine.  Most Jews in this country live very sheltered lives and buy into the propaganda.   I'm sad to say that Jews in this country and around are so gullible to believe these lies.

Just look at us now.. A majority of the Jews in the USA live in a very liberal cities and states and are all congregated into little ghetto-like areas.   Most Jews in the USA live in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.  All three cities have the most restrictive gun laws in the country.  Even, in New York and Chicago JEws are not allowed to even own guns.  Considering, Jews had half their entire people wiped out just 70 years ago, you would think we would not go and repeat the same mistakes that we did 80 years ago, where we all congregated in neighborhoods where we were surrounded by people who hated us and we were not allowed to own firearms or protect ourselves.    For example, In New York City, heavily armed Islamic groups are populating themselves in the vicinity of Jewish communities and building mosques.   What will happen when they wage an intifada against the Jews in New York?  It will be a ruthless slaughter and helpless, unarmed and fearful Jews are massacred without any means of defense.  Even, the NYPD will be outgunned and not be able to save the lives of these helpless, unarmed, brainwashed Jews.


The cycle seems to repeat itself over and over. 

[muman613]

I was never taught to be weak and defenseless. I learned how to fight and defend myself. I don't think that this has anything to do with being democrat...

I don't agree with EJA44s answer to this question. Of course we all have our opinions.

My father was a Jew who served in the military. My father was a conservative while my mother was a liberal. Jews have been conditioned to believe that the democrats are less antisemitic (which is false)... My mother now realizes these facts.

And EJA44, you know I care about you, and my advice is that your environment does not represent the majority of Jewish communities. In my small northern California community here we all support gun ownership and some of the guys go shooting together. I don't worry about not being able to get a gun as my friend is a police officer and knows the laws...

[Every Jew AK47]

I was never taught to be weak and defenseless. I learned how to fight and defend myself. I don't think that this has anything to do with being democrat...

I don't agree with EJA44s answer to this question. Of course we all have our opinions.

My father was a Jew who served in the military. My father was a conservative while my mother was a liberal. Jews have been conditioned to believe that the democrats are less antisemitic (which is false)... My mother now realizes these facts.

I'm glad you know how to fight..  I also grew up fighting and have been in a few fights, myself.  One, that almost took my life a long while back. 

My statement applies to many Jews here in the Western world, but obviously not to every Jew.    There are obviously some very great Jewish warriors here in the USA.   There was a guy at my other Chabad I was friends with who was very skilled in Ninjitsu and other martial arts and has been in lot of fights.  My father and his father are also war veterans (Vietnam and WWII)...  However, I find that many Jews here are indoctrinated to feel helpless and weak and many do not take the initiative to protect their communities, but rather depend on the Nanny State.  THis is the whole theme of Obama and the Democrat party.  Not, "We The People", but "We The Helpless SHeeple"

If you don't agree with me, that is fine..   However, I am making my own analysis not just from study, but from my own personal observation.  Most American and European Jews will not stand up and be vigilant, they rather cower and hide and pray that the government will save them.    That is why Anti-Semitic Blacks and Muslim thugs can terrorize Jewish communities, whereas these same people will never attempt to go near a conservative white American Christian community.

This does not apply to Israeli Jews who had no choice but to be vigilant, strong and fight for their very survival from the beginning.  Although, I find that many Israeli Jews are naive into putting their lives on the line for a government who doesn't have their best interests in mine.  This is almost the opposite phenomenon as we have here in the USA.



However, I will say the fact that any Jew is not armed, vigilant and votes for Obama is a great crime to the Jewish people as a whole.  We finally for the first time in history have the taste of CHERUT and we forsake it. 

[Every Jew AK47]

I also want to say I don't know why Jews stay in a liberal fascist hellhole like New York City or Chicago..  They should get the hell out while they can..  Seriously, this is just nuts.. These two cities are not even part of the USA, they are totally foreign entities and their leaders do not follow the US Constitution.     Places like these are cesspools that are just waiting for new SHoahs to arise..   Seriously, living in any Liberal dominated City and State , where rights are heavily restricted and have huge Muslim populations should not be places Jews live.  Notice, I say where "Rights Are Restricted", such as laws of self-defense and gun ownership.   The Jewish people really enjoyed their communities and lives in Warsaw and Krakow until the communities were uprooted and exterminated.

[muman613]

EJA44,

Let me explain a little of my understanding why Jews are like that 'not wanting to make waves'...

There is a little thing which we call 'antisemitism' which has cost the lives of Jews in the diaspora for many centuries. In virtually every corner of the globe the Jewish people flourished, the non-Jews grew jealous and angry at us and either killed us or they evicted us.

Could the Jewish people who were small in number and scattered throughout Europe truly 'stand up' and fight? Maybe if they just tried to avoid confrontation the nations would leave the Jews alone. In every country they tried to keep us from becoming too strong so that they would feel like they had to start another pogrom, crusade, or holocaust against the Jews.

In my grandparents era there was rampant antisemitism in America. Even in the north (where my family settled in 1890s) the Jewish people were not permitted membership in certain social clubs, they were not permitted to run for office (usually accompanied by antisemitic propaganda), and were not admitted to certain colleges. Many Jews wanted to lose their Jewish identity at that time.

It is a sad story but one which needs to be learned. There is a good potential that many of these partially lost Jews can be brought back. Im only fourth generation in this country and our family tree is brutally decimated by assimilation. This is the reason I am zealously working to keep Jews Jewish...

[muman613]

As a funny 'aside'....

When I told my mother, eleven years ago, that I was making Teshuva (returning to my Jewish roots) my moms comment was:

"Why would you want to do that?"

But the 'happy ending' is that today (and I talked to mom yesterday) my mother is very proud of my Jewish identity, and now my aunt is sending me pro-Israel articles in email... etc...

[Every Jew AK47]

EJA44,

Let me explain a little of my understanding why Jews are like that 'not wanting to make waves'...

There is a little thing which we call 'antisemitism' which has cost the lives of Jews in the diaspora for many centuries. In virtually every corner of the globe the Jewish people flourished, the non-Jews grew jealous and angry at us and either killed us or they evicted us.

Could the Jewish people who were small in number and scattered throughout Europe truly 'stand up' and fight? Maybe if they just tried to avoid confrontation the nations would leave the Jews alone. In every country they tried to keep us from becoming too strong so that they would feel like they had to start another pogrom, crusade, or holocaust against the Jews.

In my grandparents era there was rampant antisemitism in America. Even in the north (where my family settled in 1890s) the Jewish people were not permitted membership in certain social clubs, they were not permitted to run for office (usually accompanied by antisemitic propaganda), and were not admitted to certain colleges. Many Jews wanted to lose their Jewish identity at that time.

It is a sad story but one which needs to be learned. There is a good potential that many of these partially lost Jews can be brought back. Im only fourth generation in this country and our family tree is brutally decimated by assimilation. This is the reason I am zealously working to keep Jews Jewish...

I agree with you Muman 100% in your reasoning as to why Jews are the way they are.. You are essentially agreeing with me on these points as to where the mentality of helplnesses and fear has arisen.  I wasn't saying Jews are totally to be blamed for how they behave and that their was not outside influences and years of suffering and struggle that have not contributed to the mindset.  Sadly, evil political parties like the Democrat thrive on this fear and use it to manipulate Jewish people.  They will use propaganda like pictures of Jews having their synagogues burned by "evil white people" or scary men in white robes to try to comfort them and convince them that only they can protect them from these episodes.  Sadly, many Jews do not realize that the very people they are  supporting (Democrats, Liberals, Muslims) actually are harboring a much greater Anti-Semitism and have a greater plan to weaken, imprison and even wipe out the Jewish people with their agenda.  However ,many Jews are too blinded by fear of the past and brainwashing to look at the bigger picture in the current day and year.

Muman, today is not like the past..  Jews are not chased down in the streets of USA and beaten, synagogues are not being burned down by white American people and Jews can join most any club.. As a matter of fact, Jews are perhaps one of the wealthiest groups of people in the USA and we have a lot of power and influence in this country.   Jews can pray in any part of the USA, unlike even in Israel, where Jews are restricted to pray only in certain places, since Muslims have more religious freedom in Israel.  In the USA, Jews have the freedom to defend their communities , arm themselves , own land wherever they like.  Even in Israel, Jews are not permitted to own land anywhere they choose and most land is leased rather than owned.  In USA, Jews can buy a huge ranch in Montana , Vermont or even MIssissippi.   I know about a Jewish guy who bought land right in the heart of the conservative area of MIssissippi.  This was an area the Klan once had power and dominion.  Today, a well armed and freedom-loving Jewish man thrives in the heart of Dixie.

Sadly, in Europe (and even in Israel) these bad events are still happening.  Jews are being murdered in the streets for simply being Jewish and their synagogues, homes and communities are being attacked and desecrated by Muslims and fascists.

I totally understand where you are coming from Muman, but I hope you can understand why I am saying what I am saying about Jewish people here..  Hopefully, you can understand my reasoning.  It is not me trying to condemn the Jewish community, but rather my hopes that they can be strong and overcome tyranny.


BY the way, I am so happy that your mother is rejoicing in your Jewish identity.  I hope you can be a great influence on your community and family with your own vigilance and strong heart.

[muman613]

Thank you EJA44... I appreciate that... Baruch Hashem my family has come together and recognize the threat.

Most possibly the fact that we are victims of the 9/11 attack and we see how islam is spreading and becoming more violent. My mother said she could never vote for someone named 'Hussein'.... To some it may sound racist but to me it is 100% rational thinking. How could an American president be a terrorist supporter? It makes no sense at all.

[Every Jew AK47]

Thank you EJA44... I appreciate that... Baruch Hashem my family has come together and recognize the threat.

Most possibly the fact that we are victims of the 9/11 attack and we see how islam is spreading and becoming more violent. My mother said she could never vote for someone named 'Hussein'.... To some it may sound racist but to me it is 100% rational thinking. How could an American president be a terrorist supporter? It makes no sense at all.

It makes as much sense as the Hamas terrorist named Hanin Zoabi being an Israeli politician and a potential candidate for the future Prime Minister of Israel.

America has its share of struggles, like most places in the world; however, we do have a powerful Constitution and government structure that prevents tyrannical leaders from wrecking havoc on our country such as country's like Russia who have megalomaniacs like Putin and his inner circle of generals and oligarchs running the entire show.

American Jews need to get with the program and realize the liberals are the ones promoting the new Nazi ideology and people like Obama Hussein are the masterminds behind the schemes.

[Super Mentalita]

I doubt this is the real answer. Just calling names does not explain why Jews support the democrats. I would be willing to wager that many of the Jews who voted democrat have very high IQ's (not idiots) and most are not self-haters. Most Jews who vote democrat do so because they view the democrat party as more in line with some Jewish concepts. Also the 'wrong' perception that the right-wing republicans are the ones who are Jew haters makes the democrats more powerful.

If you say so...