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Offline ItalianZionist

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What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« on: October 09, 2007, 10:34:53 PM »
He was from southern Iraq, if I'm not mistaken. Does that make him Sumerian. If so are the Sumerians Semites? Maybe Yacov would know....He's interested in these topics.
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2007, 10:50:31 PM »
I think that the Sumerians were originally from Bahrain.
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 11:59:49 PM »
Quote from: ItalianZionist on October 09, 2007, 10:50:31 PM
I think that the Sumerians were originally from Bahrain.

meseptomian...

so i think abraham was modern day iraqi.
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2007, 12:05:40 AM »
Avraham came from Shem (Noah's son).

Noah- Shem- Arpachshad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2007, 12:31:15 AM »
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:05:40 AM
Avraham came from Shem (Noah's son).

Noah- Shem- Arpachshad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham

Okay, so where did Noah come from? Hey, honest question I don't know, not all of us have our nose stuck in a religious book every day.  :)
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 12:42:23 AM »
Quote from: NewYorker on October 10, 2007, 12:31:15 AM
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:05:40 AM
Avraham came from Shem (Noah's son).

Noah- Shem- Arpachshad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham

Okay, so where did Noah come from? Hey, honest question I don't know, not all of us have our nose stuck in a religious book every day.  :)

I can give you a list if you care, but all of humanity comes from Noah.
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‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 12:45:43 AM »
okay here-

Adam-Seth-Enosh-Kenan-Mahalalel-Yerad-Enoch-Lamech-Noah.

Z'L To all the fathers at once.
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The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 01:39:36 AM »
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: NewYorker on October 10, 2007, 12:31:15 AM
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:05:40 AM
Avraham came from Shem (Noah's son).

Noah- Shem- Arpachshad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham

Okay, so where did Noah come from? Hey, honest question I don't know, not all of us have our nose stuck in a religious book every day.  :)

I can give you a list if you care, but all of humanity comes from Noah.

I meant geographically. By "were did he come from" I literally meant "where".  ::)
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 01:53:21 AM »
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: NewYorker on October 10, 2007, 12:31:15 AM
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:05:40 AM
Avraham came from Shem (Noah's son).

Noah- Shem- Arpachshad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham

Okay, so where did Noah come from? Hey, honest question I don't know, not all of us have our nose stuck in a religious book every day.  :)

I can give you a list if you care, but all of humanity comes from Noah.


People say all of humanity comes through Noah but I've heard that the flood didn't necessarily cover the entire earth? Is this true? If so, didn't other people survive?
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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 02:52:03 PM »
Quote from: JTFMaccabee on October 10, 2007, 01:53:21 AM
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: NewYorker on October 10, 2007, 12:31:15 AM
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:05:40 AM
Avraham came from Shem (Noah's son).

Noah- Shem- Arpachshad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham

Okay, so where did Noah come from? Hey, honest question I don't know, not all of us have our nose stuck in a religious book every day.  :)

I can give you a list if you care, but all of humanity comes from Noah.


People say all of humanity comes through Noah but I've heard that the flood didn't necessarily cover the entire earth? Is this true? If so, didn't other people survive?
No, except 1 giant, I believe Og. But I dont belive that he has decendents.
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The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: What is the original nationality of Abraham?
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 07:49:33 PM »
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 10, 2007, 12:05:40 AM
Avraham came from Shem (Noah's son).

Noah- Shem- Arpachshad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham

I would love to name one of my kids one of those Genesis type of names.. but I don't think that would go well with an Italian surname..  :-\
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