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Offline Yerusha

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End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« on: September 21, 2012, 09:55:23 AM »
This motzei shabbos once again, two months before the rest of the world, a whole precious hour of daylight in Israel is lopped off, solely because the  Shas party wants to save R.Ovadia Yosef an extra hour's fasting on Yom Kippur next week!
 
It cannot be got through to them that the fast will still be 25 hours no
 matter what: "The very definition of an Israeli is that he cannot be reached!" (R.Meir Kahane)
 
One thing that both Kahanists & Meretzniks can agree on is that Shas, whom Chaim calls "the most unbelievably evil party in Israel", has to go!

 http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=285099

Stalled bill ensures daylight savings ends early

Meretz attacks Shas over "broken promise" to extend Daylight Savings Time, blames "haredi wheeler-dealers" for burying issue:

As the High Holy Days begin, an argument between Shas and Meretz that has become an annual tradition rears its head yet again: When should daylight-savings time end? MK Nitzan Horowitz (Meretz) slammed Interior Minister Eli Yishai on Friday, saying the minister promised to pass a law to extend daylight-saving time by 11 days, but buried it in the Shas-controlled Knesset Interior Committee.

"It's a technical change: Extend DST until summer actually ends," Horowitz said. "Nothing is simpler than that."

Meretz has accused Yishai and Shas of preventing the extension of daylight-saving time so that the Yom Kippur fast will end earlier in the day. However, regardless of what time the sun sets, the fast is 25 hours long.

In March, the Interior Ministry announced that daylight-saving time would end next Sunday morning at 2, before Yom Kippur, which begins on Tuesday evening, September 25. The ministry explained that, since the bill was not approved, there would not be enough time to bring it into effect in 2012.

Last June, a bill extending daylight-saving time from 182 to 193 days per year passed a preliminary Knesset vote, but the legislation has yet to progress beyond that point.

Interior Committee chairman Amnon Cohen (Shas), said the measure was stuck because of disagreements between the Interior Ministry and MKs who wanted the legislation to be worded. Shai's office said the bill would be finalized in the Knesset's winter session, which begins on October 15.

Horowitz, however, blamed the bill's status on "a bunch of haredi wheelerdealers who control the Interior Ministry and made up all kinds of excuses to postpone and delay."

The Meretz MK added that, because of Shas, it would be dark at five in the afternoon this winter.

"We wanted to get rid of darkness, but the real darkness is in the Interior Ministry and this government," Horowitz said. "We need to get rid of them, so there will be light."

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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 11:16:59 AM »
i hate that DST. causes so much trouble.
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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 02:07:46 PM »
If the fast is 25 hours regardless then how could they be doing it for his sake? The argument is circular.

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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 04:27:09 PM »


"Protests greet end of Daylight Saving Time

Meretz activists decry early end to summer clock in Israel, accusing Shas of prioritizing Yom Kippur fast over cost-savings.
Photo: Meretz

Dozens of Meretz activists protested in Tel Aviv's Rabin Square and in front of Interior Minister Eli Yishai's Jerusalem home as Daylight Saving Time (DST) was set to end on Saturday night.

Speaking at the demonstration, MK Nitzan Horowitz (Meretz) called on Yishai and the Shas-controlled Knesset Interior Committee to allow his bill to extend DST to the end of October, which passed a preliminary Knesset reading in June 2011, to continue in the legislative process.

This year, the Israeli public will lose hours of sunlight because of "an inexplicable caprice," Horowitz said.

Meretz has accused Yishai and Shas of preventing the extension of daylight-saving time so that the Yom Kippur fast will end earlier in the day. However, regardless of what time the sun sets, the fast is 25 hours long.

Interior Committee chairman Amnon Cohen (Shas), has said the measure is stuck because of disagreements between the Interior Ministry's committee of experts on the topic and MKs from other factions, who wanted the legislation to be worded differently.

Yishai’s office said the bill would be finalized in the Knesset’s winter session, which begins on October 15.

"Once again, Israel is at the bottom of the list of DST length, even though the summer is long here and we can use the many hours of light in order to save electricity, decrease traffic accidents and gain another hour of light in the afternoon," he added.

If the law is not changed, DST will end on September 8 next year, almost two months before most of the world, Horowitz explained.

Also at the protest, Mickey Gitzin, Director-General of religious freedom NGO Israel Hofshit, accused Yishai and other politicians of trying to increase their power at the expense of the public's leisure and work hours.

"The public is sick and tired of the government ignoring their basic needs," he said.

MK Ronit Tirosh (Kadima), who proposed a similar bill to extend DST, said that "Israel has proved, once again, that it is a dark country."

"The Interior Minister continues to make false promises that the new law will pass in the next Knesset session, but he knows that the only law that will pass is to dissolve the Knesset," she stated, referring to rumors that an election will be called in the coming months. "Meanwhile, he is forcing all of Israel to lose hours of light and waste electricity."

Earlier this week, Meretz attempted to create online memes against ending DST on its Facebook page. One showed a picture of Yishai's head on the body of a character from HBO's Game of Thrones, with the words "winter is coming," a well-known quote from the show. Another had Yishai as the bird in a cuckoo clock, with the text: "Don't move your clocks, move Eli Yishai. One hour earlier is better." "

http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=285884

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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 09:07:42 PM »
  Didn't read this whole rant by Yerusha, but I know for a fact that this animal is some Jew hater, self-hating or some gov. agent (like a Avishai Raviv).
 
 divide and conquer right?
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2012, 09:47:57 PM »
  Didn't read this whole rant by Yerusha, but I know for a fact that this animal is some Jew hater, self-hating or some gov. agent (like a Avishai Raviv).
 
 divide and conquer right?
Exactly, tag! That's all they ever try to do! I don't think Yerusha is a agent, he is way to stupid to be, his posts are to transparent!
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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2012, 11:21:12 PM »
Rav Kahane said that as PM he would keep Israel on "Summer Time" and even "Double Summer Time" when necessary to ensure there would be light in the evenings and saving of electricty, and that he would instate a proper 2-day weekend ie on Shabbos there would be no public vehicular Sabbath profanation allowed and no vehicles of any kind allowed on the roads; with Sunday as a day of no work for Israelis to relax and 'party'. Instead as of today dawn in Israel starts at 4 in the morning which is of no avail to anyone, and dusk will already be at 5pm with total night at 6pm & it's still September!

Even Shas mothers aren't too happy about it
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/160188
let alone those in the unilluminated Yesha
http://ewallstreeter.com/two-dead-in-traffic-accident-with-wild-boars-4124/#

The only one who benefits $$$ is the Israel Electric Corporation!
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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 10:57:25 AM »
It's much better having the clocks put back at the end of October rather than the first week of September as it used to be when Ovadiya Yosef held sway in the government.

But why change the clocks at all?!

Bill to abolish Israel Winter Time altogether:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/186591#.VE0L_pscTn5

Israel is only 30 degrees North, and having dawn start at 5am benefits only the driver of the 5.15 Tel Aviv-Eilat bus, whilst robbing everyone else of a whole hour of precious Vitamin-D producing afternoon sunlight (which most Israelis have been found to be severely hypovitaminotic in), plus raking in even more gelt for the Israel Electric Corporation: "Stupidity in Israel reaches extra-terrestrial proportions!" (Professor Paul Eidelberg)!



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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 01:18:53 PM »
Arizona is the only sane place in the world in this respect.
No DST in Arizona!!!!

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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 03:01:23 PM »
The problem is that Israel's time zone is that of Cairo. If we switched to Jerusalem Mean Time, it wouldn't get dark so early in Israel this time of year. The only thing is that it would make Israel 7 and a half hours ahead of New York. But there are other time zones where such a thing exists (Such as in Newfoundland, Canada).

Alaska actually has double Daylight Savings Time (Alaska is 2 hours ahead of the real solar time there in the Summer and one hour ahead of real solar time in the Winter.). So that's why Shabbat is over around 2:00 A.M. in the Summer but not as early as you would expect in the Winter for that latitude.



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Re: End of Daylight Saving Time in Israel
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014, 03:19:54 PM »
Arizona is the only sane place in the world in this respect.
No DST in Arizona!!!!


The Ein Atid MK wants us to be on Daylight Savings Time all year. This means Sunrise will be very late in December and January.

I'm not sure about the times but I know where I live in the US, the Sun rises after 7:00 A.M. in late December and early January. If those times were true in Israel as well, the Ein Atid moron would want to make Sunrise after 8:00 A.M..

People say that changing to DST in the second week of March and switching back to Standard Time the first week of November makes people get up in the dark. I know it's in the news every March. It artificially changes Sunrise to around 7:30 A.M..

I like Shabbat in the Winter as you have a longer night. You can eat dinner and have time to read before it's too late. Also, Shabbat is over early so you have a full evening on Saturday Night. But preparing for Shabbat is easier in the Summer.