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Offline Yerusha

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More under the Golan than just oil
« on: December 30, 2014, 07:53:37 PM »
The Golan is a Holy place, the pre-Mabul seat of power of Og and later of Nimrod and the Nefillim.

Once they start drilling they will find more there than just oil!

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Preparations-for-drilling-underway-at-Golan-Heights-oil-exploration-site-386180


Offline Tag-MehirTzedek

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Re: More under the Golan than just oil
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2014, 07:56:35 PM »
Good. Now they can findnoik and then give it away to Syria. Which faction is a q. Maybe in 3 years they will figure it out.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

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5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

Offline Binyamin Yisrael

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Re: More under the Golan than just oil
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2014, 01:10:30 AM »
Birkat Ram near Mount Hermon is one of the three springs mentioned in the Talmud that opened up during the Flood that still exists. The others are Hamat Gader in the Southeastern Golan Heights along the Yarmuch Valley and Hamat in Tiberias.

Hamat Gader is actually within the "international borders" as defined by Bolshevik international law. Syria took that land during the War of Independence just like Jordan took Judea and Samaria. The rest of the Golan Heights was also part of the British Mandate until it was transferred to the French Mandate of Syria by the British. I think it was the fact that Syria demanded all that land all the way to the Kinneret that Baruch Hashem stopped Barak's proposed surrender of the Golan.


Offline Dan193

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Re: More under the Golan than just oil
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2014, 01:27:50 PM »
The Golan belongs to Israel Period.
Syria controlled the Golan for only 21 years from 48 to 67, half the period it has been under Israeli rule. Almost half of the Golan had been purchased by Rothschild in the late 1800s and later robbed by the Syrian government in 1946.
All Jews were expelled from the Golan by terrorist Syria in 1946.

The Golan Heights was part of the British Mandate borders of 1917 that was supposed to go to Israel. The British gave the Golan to France in 1922 and France gave it to Syria in 1946.
The Golan was never part of Syria before 1946.

The Golan Has Been Jewish for Centuries. These rotten Arab colonialists have stolen lands from Kurds, Berbers, Copts, Babylonians, Chaldeans and they want to steal Jewish lands as well. The Golan was part of ancient and modern Israel for centuries, while it was under Syrian occupation for a mere 21 years!! The archaeology of the Golan is proof that the Golan is Jewish. I personally helped dig up a Talmudic era synagogue in Katzrin which is now has a visitor centre. The only Arab land is (Saudi) Arabia. The Arabs can go back there!!

The Golan is where the tribes of Dan and Menashe settled, and Israeli kings ranging from Saul to Herod ruled there. The Golan saw consecutive Jewish settlement for 800 years; 300 Jewish communities from the time of the Mishna and Talmudwere discovered there, along with the remnants of 27 synagogues. Later, 1,000 years of desolation followed, until the Jews returned. The Golan belongs to Israel because it is the estate of their forefathers.

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Re: More under the Golan than just oil
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2014, 01:30:55 PM »
Proof the Golan is historically Israel's.

http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2008/06/golan-hights-historical-rights-and.html
The Golan Hights - Historical Rights and Legitimacy .
MONDAY, JUNE 2, 2008
 
The Golan is where the tribes of Dan and Menashe settled, and Israeli kings ranging from Saul to Herod ruled there. The Golan saw consecutive Jewish settlement for 800 years; 300 Jewish communities from the time of the Mishna and Talmud were discovered there, along with the remnants of 27 synagogues. Later, 1,000 years of desolation followed, until the Jews returned. In the 16th century, the Ottoman Turks came in control of the area and remained so until the end of World War I.

The Golan belongs to Israel because it is the estate of the Jews forefathers and not only by the power of occupation in a defensive war against an aggressor, like America in Texas and Poland and former German territories.

Syria controlled the Golan for only 21 years, half the period it has been under Israeli rule. Almost half of its territory has been purchased by Rothschild and later robbed by the Syrian government. Jews settled in the Golan as early as 1886 (long before the Syrian Arab Republic existed)  but they were expelled, massacred, or fled because of malaria.

In 1886, the Jewish B'nei Yehuda society of Safed purchased a plot of land four kilometers north of the present-day religious moshav of Keshet, but the community, named Ramataniya, failed one year later. In 1887, the society purchased lands between the modern-day Bene Yehuda and Kibbutz Ein Gev. This community survived until 1920, when two of its last members were murdered in the anti-Jewish riots which erupted in the spring of that year. In 1891, Baron Rothschild purchased approximately 18,000 acres (73 km²) of land in the Hauran, about 15 km east of modern Ramat Hamagshimim. Immigrants of the First Aliyah (1881–1903) established five small communities on this land, but were forced to leave by the Ottomans in 1898. The lands were farmed until 1947 by the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PICA) and the Jewish Colonization Association, when they were seized by the Syrian army.

According to the Agreement of San Remo,(April 1920) The mandate for Palestine comprises an area incorporating what is now the entire state of Israel, including the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and the Golan Heights. The mandate specifically states that a national homeland for the Jewish people should be established in Palestine, but that the rights of non-Jews should be protected. In 1923, Britain ceded the Golan Heights (1,176 square kilometers of the Palestine Mandate) to the French Mandate of Syria, in spite of the specifications of the San Remo agreements and the  Mandate for Palestine which was conferred on Britain in 1922 by The League of Nations. Jews were also barred from living there. Jewish settlers on the Golan Heights were forced to abandon their homes and relocate inside the westerb area of the British Mandate.


Claims that the Golan is Syrian land has no geographic or historical basis. All theese evens should be known before we talk about strategy and security.

And the situation today?

A poll found that 48% of the public said they would refuse an order to evacuate the Golan. This strengthen the Golan loyalists, and it appears to undermine Israel's right to hand over parts of the country to other states.

With the exception of Stalinist Russia, states only expelled the populations of enemies defeated in war, rather than their own citizens. And just like depriving a person of his rights and freedoms is forbidden, "cleansing" the Golan off Jews would not only be a national sin, but also a crime against humanity, which allows for the right to resist. Should Golan leaders not internalize this, the Gush Katif tragedy shall repeat.


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Re: More under the Golan than just oil
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2014, 04:12:09 PM »
That is such a beautiful place. Wish I could be on a horse there on my own farm and have a nice lady with me.