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Offline Yerusha

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The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« on: May 28, 2015, 05:05:21 PM »
"The Godfather" is a nastily realistic 1972 film depicting the Sicilian mafia in 1940s USA as the ruthless criminals and killers that they were.

That this film is going to be shown in the open air replete with live symphonic music, is a chillul of Yerushalayim Ir Hakodesh, especially the scene of Sonny Corleone (played by 1/2 Jewish gentile James Caan) performing frottage with an Italian female: what a disgrace!

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4661808,00.html



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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2015, 06:08:14 PM »
"The Godfather" is a nastily realistic 1972 film depicting the Sicilian mafia in 1940s USA as the ruthless criminals and killers that they were.

That this film is going to be shown in the open air replete with live symphonic music, is a chillul of Yerushalayim Ir Hakodesh, especially the scene of Sonny Corleone (played by 1/2 Jewish gentile James Caan) performing frottage with an Italian female: what a disgrace!

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4661808,00.html



Come on....realistic...Sonny Corleone was played by a half Jewish Gentile.
And wait...what about the Jewish mafia.  Are they showing part II?
http://www.jewishfilmguide.com/review/godfather-part-ii-the/76
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2015, 06:49:59 PM »
It's realistic to some extent and the characters are composites of real mafiosi- Vito Corleone is based on Frank Costello and Lucky Luciano and some other dons probably. Hyman Roth is supposed to be a fictional Meyer Lansky. There is a Frank Sinatra type of character too and Mo Green is Bugsy Siegal and so forth.

I would call it glorified reality. Unlike most movies the main characters aren't bullet proof and don't posses super human capabilities. It is a good movie, one of the all time bests.

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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2015, 06:52:25 PM »
"The Godfather" is a nastily realistic 1972 film depicting the Sicilian mafia in 1940s USA as the ruthless criminals and killers that they were.

That this film is going to be shown in the open air replete with live symphonic music, is a chillul of Yerushalayim Ir Hakodesh, especially the scene of Sonny Corleone (played by 1/2 Jewish gentile James Caan) performing frottage with an Italian female: what a disgrace!

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4661808,00.html





Have mercy  :::D The Italians have the name but the Irish and Jew's masterminded the game... The Italians were late comers the the organized crime business... They eventually over time took over their fair share of the different businesses here in the United States but were in no way the founding fathers.
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By Jimmy Gillman
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Godfather Part II, The
Paramount Pictures; 1974; 200 minutes; R, for strong violence, nudity, sexual situations, adult themes and language; Directed by Francis Ford Coppola; Starring: Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino, Robert Duvall, Diane Keaton, Lee Strasberg, John Cazale, Talia Shire, Bruno Kirby, G.D. Spradlin and Michael Gazzo; Screenwriter(s): Mario Puzo and Francis Ford Coppola

GRADE: A+

It’s not often that a sequel to a film universally lauded as a masterpiece manages to exceed the original. But that’s exactly what director Francis Ford Coppola has accomplished with The Godfather Part II, his extraordinary follow-up to The Godfather, and one of the first films to explore the role of the Jewish Mafia.

Brilliant in every way, The Godfather Part II is not just a great crime film, but one of the finest motion pictures ever produced. The story picks up where its predecessor left off with young Michael Corleone (Al Pacino, never better) now the Don of the syndicate’s most powerful Mafia family.

With a sprawling, but well-managed storyline involving many different characters and events, the film details Corleone’s efforts to make the family business legitimate by building it around a Las Vegas casino that is now the hub of their considerable financial empire.

Godfather Part II also contains a major subplot involving Hyman Roth (Lee Strasberg, excellent in his first screen role), the leader of the Jewish Mafia, who in one scene describes their combined criminal enterprise to Corleone by declaring “we’re bigger than U.S. Steel.”

That infamous quotation has been credited to real-life Jewish mobster Meyer Lansky, the highest ranking and most powerful Jewish mobster in American history, on whom the character of Roth is obviously based.

The suspicion that exists and eventually erupts between Corleone and Roth illustrates the historical tension between Jewish and Italian/Sicilian criminal elements. It’s a fact partially fleshed out when Roth, angry that Corleone has decided not to join him in the financing of operations in Cuba, makes reference to another minor but important Jewish character from the first film, Moe Green, the casino operator Corleone had assassinated.

Though the character of Moe Green is seen here only in flashback, his presence (even in absentia) calls attention to the actual Jewish mobsters who were instrumental in launching the mob’s Las Vegas operations (prominent among this group was Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel, but the initiative actually involved other notable Jewish gangsters).
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2015, 06:57:58 PM »
The Italian Mafia has a long history in southern Italy. They have existed there probably before the USA came to be.

Have mercy  :::D The Italians have the name but the Irish and Jew's masterminded the game... The Italians were late comers the the organized crime business... They eventually over time took over their fair share of the different businesses here in the United States but were in no way the founding fathers.

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2015, 07:03:21 PM »
The Italian Mafia has a long history in southern Italy. They have existed there probably before the USA came to be.
What they had there was quite a different bird than what was going on here in the United States... It was a more pay for play system there... Influence, protection and the like... Here in the United States it was booze, gambling, prostitution, drugs and the like... Quite a different thing.   
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2015, 08:35:05 PM »

Have mercy  :::D The Italians have the name but the Irish and Jew's masterminded the game... The Italians were late comers the the organized crime business... They eventually over time took over their fair share of the different businesses here in the United States but were in no way the founding fathers.
Oh, of course the wops have to bring up the Irish. Totally joking! My grandads family was Chicago Irish immigrants. I don't care about that stuff, I just find racism funny. 
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2015, 08:57:06 PM »
Didn't Jews run Murder Inc?

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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2015, 09:46:19 PM »
Everyone has seen this rather perturbing 43 year old film numerous times decades ago.

Who thought up the idea of re-showing it davka at this time, and not in Tel Aviv, but in the Old City of Jerusalem of all inappropriate places?!



There is a subliminal message here somehwere & it will only strengthen the klippos and kochos hatuma and even energize on some spiritual level corruption, conspiracy, treachery and murder in Eretz Yisroel, led by the Godfather himself, the Judophobic actor Marlon Brando!



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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2015, 02:52:23 AM »
Looks like I'm agreeing once again with Yerusha on this.

Hollywood is selling an immoral image. This cannot be denied. Just look at how kids today (and in my day) are so influenced by the things and people they see in movies. These 'stars' are corrupt, and usually promote an immoral lifestyle. Hollywood has no moral compass and does whatever it takes to sell their films. I have not gone to a theater in over 13 years now and seldom see modern movies (though things from the 70s-90s occasionally I watch on youtube)...

Israel (the Jewish people of Israel) should not seek to emulate the ways of the nations. If we are to really fulfill the mission of the Jewish people in Erez Yisroel then we should be outraged at this kind of thing. Living in galut myself I know how the culture of America can alter Jewish reality (witness the pathetic liberal democrat Jews)...

Maybe I sound harsh but I think the Jews in Jerusalem have more important things to do than watch this movie (which probably can be watched online if desired).

 
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2015, 02:54:17 AM »
Didn't Jews run Murder Inc?

According to wikipedias article:

Murder, Inc. (or Murder Incorporated) was the name the press gave to organized crime groups in the 1930s through the 1940s that acted as the "enforcement arm" of the American Mafia, the early organized crime groups in New York and elsewhere.[1] The groups were composed of largely Jewish-American and Italian-American gangsters from the Brooklyn neighborhoods of Brownsville, East New York, and Ocean Hill. Originally headed by Louis "Lepke" Buchalter, and later by Albert "The Mad Hatter" Anastasia, Murder, Inc. was believed to be responsible for between 400 and 1,000 contract killings,[2] until the group was exposed in the early 1940s by a former group member Abe "Kid Twist" Reles. In the trials that followed, many members were convicted and executed, and Abe Reles himself died after "falling" out of a window. Thomas E. Dewey first came to prominence as a prosecutor of Murder, Inc. and other organized crime cases.[3]
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2015, 05:38:43 AM »
James Caan is not 1/2 Jewish he's all Jewish. The Mafia started out as a protection group when the French ruled Sicily.The really brutal bums are the Russian mafia,they torture people to death and will kill even family members of the the guys they want to hit.And they kill in a very brutal way similar to ISIS
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2015, 06:21:27 AM »
You're right, Caan is Jewish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Caan

His fate in "The Godfather" was viewed at the time as being particularly gruesome



Even today, especially in Jerusalem where so much Jewish blood has been really spilt, is this the kind of thing to be shown in the open air projected on to the walls of the Old City?!
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2015, 04:28:26 PM »
Oh, of course the wops have to bring up the Irish. Totally joking! My grandads family was Chicago Irish immigrants. I don't care about that stuff, I just find racism funny.
Of course the WOPS bring up the MICKS.
Is that what you meant to say?  :P  :::D
I think we surely must all be past the point of caring what we're called.
We actually use the full terminology  Guinea WOP.  It sounds more official.

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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2015, 04:33:21 PM »
Of course the WOPS bring up the MICKS.
Is that what you meant to say?  :P  :::D
I think we surely must all be past the point of caring what we're called.
We actually use the full terminology  Guinea WOP.  It sounds more official.
:::D :::D ;D
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2015, 06:05:40 PM »
Didn't Jews run Murder Inc?
Actually I think they did play a big part in it along with the  Italians... They were Brooklyn gangsters... As I remember  old timer who worked with me years ago talked about how they ran a car dealership over on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn years ago... He must have worked there as a kid and told me some stories of what the place was like.
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Re: The Sicilian Mob comes to Jerusalem
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2015, 07:38:05 PM »
I thought this was going to be about the Vatican and King David's Tomb.