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mosquewatch:
decimos,
Let me help ya out a bit, while I'm a bit calm. Let's have the Military kill the mujahadin, then bicker about what Jews and Christians believe in.
ftf:
--- Quote from: chakma613 on August 29, 2007, 06:48:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lisa on August 29, 2007, 06:45:03 PM ---Chakma613, just as JTF is against people trying to convert Jews, we are also against Jews telling Christians and others, either directly, or via implication that their religion is idolatery (sp?) or that it's wrong in any way.
For the purpose of this movement, we work with people whose religious beliefs do not always match our own. That's life. Decimos seems geniunely interested in our movement. So I don't think it's appropriate to scare him away by bickering about what is and is not idol worship.
In other words, if you want to continue pontificating about how Christianity is idol worship, or how no one is allowed to have differing opinions than your beloved rabbis, do so elsewhere.
Consider this your first and only warning!
--- End quote ---
On the surface, your idea is a good one. However, I canot allow you to spread sheker about torah. You stated that xtianity is not avodah zarah, and I had to correct you, this is my responsibility, and indeed mitzvah. I see nothing wrong with what I said - had you not told the poster in question what tyou told him about xtianity, I would not have said anything.
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As you have not desisted, I feel compelled to answer you.
You say that my faith Christianity is idol worship. And yet, I ahve no idols, no pictures or statues or any other physical objects that I bow to. I have but one God that I serve, the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. Now, I believe that God has three components to him, just like a tree has roots trunk and branches and is yet one tree, God as the creator of all things (including trees) can surely be more complex than a tree, can he not?
decimos: If you have any questions about Christianity please contact me with the pm feature.
chakma613:
--- Quote from: Lisa on August 29, 2007, 07:02:42 PM ---Chakma613,
Chaim Ben Pesach, the owner of this forum, would never in million years tell a Christian that his religion is considered Avoda Zara. He would very politely explain that Jews are not allowed to believe in the Trinity, and that it should not stop all of us from working together. Therefore I stand my initial response.
So if you have a problem with that, you are free to start your own forum, and or blog.
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You have yet to answer why you blatantly told a fallacy about Judaism, with full knowledge of our beliefs. You have yet to answer my question as to why you told this person a fallacy.
newman:
--- Quote from: ftf on August 29, 2007, 07:11:56 PM ---As you have not desisted, I feel compelled to answer you.
You say that my faith Christianity is idol worship. And yet, I ahve no idols, no pictures or statues or any other physical objects that I bow to. I have but one G-d that I serve, the G-d of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. Now, I believe that G-d has three components to him, just like a tree has roots trunk and branches and is yet one tree, G-d as the creator of all things (including trees) can surely be more complex than a tree, can he not?
decimos: If you have any questions about Christianity please contact me with the pm feature.
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Here he goes again with his heresy-by-stealth!!!
chakma613:
--- Quote from: ftf on August 29, 2007, 07:11:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: chakma613 on August 29, 2007, 06:48:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lisa on August 29, 2007, 06:45:03 PM ---Chakma613, just as JTF is against people trying to convert Jews, we are also against Jews telling Christians and others, either directly, or via implication that their religion is idolatery (sp?) or that it's wrong in any way.
For the purpose of this movement, we work with people whose religious beliefs do not always match our own. That's life. Decimos seems geniunely interested in our movement. So I don't think it's appropriate to scare him away by bickering about what is and is not idol worship.
In other words, if you want to continue pontificating about how Christianity is idol worship, or how no one is allowed to have differing opinions than your beloved rabbis, do so elsewhere.
Consider this your first and only warning!
--- End quote ---
On the surface, your idea is a good one. However, I canot allow you to spread sheker about torah. You stated that xtianity is not avodah zarah, and I had to correct you, this is my responsibility, and indeed mitzvah. I see nothing wrong with what I said - had you not told the poster in question what tyou told him about xtianity, I would not have said anything.
--- End quote ---
As you have not desisted, I feel compelled to answer you.
You say that my faith Christianity is idol worship. And yet, I ahve no idols, no pictures or statues or any other physical objects that I bow to. I have but one G-d that I serve, the G-d of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. Now, I believe that G-d has three components to him, just like a tree has roots trunk and branches and is yet one tree, G-d as the creator of all things (including trees) can surely be more complex than a tree, can he not?
decimos: If you have any questions about Christianity please contact me with the pm feature.
--- End quote ---
Your statement is in contrast to our authority rambam(mainmonides), who rules something QUITE different. You are comparing G-d to a tree - you have clearly been taken in by polytheistic thought, as th8is is the oldest and most primitive argument made for polytheism, to say that G-d is made up of many parts cv's.
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